Avian Flu Outbreak????

[*zap*]

I am hearing talk about dead wild geese being seen in different areas of the country and a confirmation in NC.

NC wild birds are first confirmed deaths due to avian flu
PRE News & Ideas | By Meredith Radford
Published March 17, 2022 at 3:07 PM EDT

 

[CoStick]

Probably had other health issues and would have died anyways;-)

 

[Sccritterkiller]

As many geese as we have around here it was just a matter of time before disease would take its toll. I regularly see flocks of 100 Canadian Geese in fields here and I am pretty sure they are resident as I see them pretty much year round.

 

[FLATHEAD]

Things are freaking everywhere,,,,except where I can hunt.

 

[Lvthntitall]

Confirmed cases at the refuge by Havana Illinois

 

[KurtR]

As many geese as we have around here it was just a matter of time before disease would take its toll. I regularly see flocks of 100 Canadian Geese in fields here and I am pretty sure they are resident as I see them pretty much year round.

100 is a small group 1000 plus is a decent feed for honkers. 10000 plus for snow geese isn’t uncommon. This happens every year . Seems more deadly this than average . All the Facebook biologists are freaking out. Hell more die from botulism in the summer no one notices because they are not looking.

 

[*zap*]

I hear that commercially raised meat chickens are being killed now to try and stop this....

 

[KurtR]

I hear that commercially raised meat chickens are being killed now to try and stop this....

Yep I heard 3 places in South Dakota had to do it. Happens every year just depends on if the news wants to scare everyone into a panic

 

[menhaden_man]

Didn’t you start the whu flu thread? Terrible track record @*zap* - I did buy four dozen eggs just in case. Maybe I need TP too.

 

[Tick]

Happens every year. Some years worse than others.

 

[Chase0109]

The issue is High path avian influenza (HPAI). HPAI is a highly contagious influenza that kills most species of birds outside of waterfowl. Waterfowl, ducks and geese, can carry HPAI yet and it generally does not kill them. But because it kills every other bird that contracts HPAI it is a big problem. Normally we do not see HPAI North America. Up until 2015 it was strictly an old world disease. It broke out in Canada in the fall of 2014 when a Pintail migrated the wrong way and came across the Bering strait into Alaska. It had a huge affect on the commercial poultry industry in the spring of 2015. We have not seen any cases of HPAI in North America since then.

HPAI showed up again in on the East Coast this winter. It spreads like crazy in the wild bird population and can be transferred to commercial poultry growers as the waterfowl migrate and lands next to poultry buildings.

The reason commercial growers kill a flock is only if they test positive for HPAI. The entire farm needs to be depopulated and decontaminated. They are not doing any proactive culling unless the farm tests positive.

HPAI cannot infect humans. It is strictly confined to birds. So there’s nothing that the general public needs to worry about healthwise. But it can have extremely large economic consequences to our poultry industry in North America.

Low path avian influenza (LPAI). Is very common in North America and generally does not affect birds wild or domestic very much. It is just this Highpath strain that is problematic.

Thanks,

Chase

 

[KurtR]

The issue is High path avian influenza (HPAI). HPAI is a highly contagious influenza that kills most species of birds outside of waterfowl. Waterfowl, ducks and geese, can carry HPAI yet and it generally does not kill them. But because it kills every other bird that contracts HPAI it is a big problem. Normally we do not see HPAI North America. Up until 2015 it was strictly an old world disease. It broke out in Canada in the fall of 2014 when a Pintail migrated the wrong way and came across the Bering strait into Alaska. It had a huge affect on the commercial poultry industry in the spring of 2015. We have not seen any cases of HPAI in North America since then.

HPAI showed up again in on the East Coast this winter. It spreads like crazy in the wild bird population and can be transferred to commercial poultry growers as the waterfowl migrate and lands next to poultry buildings.

The reason commercial growers kill a flock is only if they test positive for HPAI. The entire farm needs to be depopulated and decontaminated. They are not doing any proactive culling unless the farm tests positive.

HPAI cannot infect humans. It is strictly confined to birds. So there’s nothing that the general public needs to worry about healthwise. But it can have extremely large economic consequences to our poultry industry in North America.

Low path avian influenza (LPAI). Is very common in North America and generally does not affect birds wild or domestic very much. It is just this Highpath strain that is problematic.

Thanks,

Chase

can dogs get it. White birds make for great marks as they can be seen so well

 

[Chase0109]

can dogs get it. White birds make for great marks as they can be seen so well

I am not a licensed veterinarian, so I won’t make any 100% definitive statements. I train Raptor‘s for a living and I’m currently working in the poultry industry to keep migratory waterfowl away from poultry production farms using trained falcons.

Everything I’ve been told by veterinarians says that it is avian specific for a host. HPAI cannot jump to mammals. So me personally I have zero worries about my dogs in contact with waterfowl. I hunt with two GWP‘s.

Chase

 

[zacattack]

can dogs get it. White birds make for great marks as they can be seen so well

As far as we know there has never been a case of this strain of HPAI jumping from birds to any other animals. It just doesn’t jump around like the news media likes to say it does.

 

[Mosby]

Just to be safe we should have our dogs wear a mask around birds and pull it down for retrieval.

 

[LonghairDontcare]

If you call Fish and Wildlife in FL for anything, there's a leadoff recording advising you to not touch any sick or injured birds as the outbreak here is that bad.

 

[Celtictruth]

can dogs get it. White birds make for great marks as they can be seen so well

Yes. We have now seen it is skunks and foxes (all dead) that we believe got infected from eating all the dead water fowl.

 

[Celtictruth]

Also hearing that there have been a bunch of dead wild turkey in Ontario from HP AI. Not sure to what extent this is affecting the turkeys. In Alberta we have seen dead geese and deck in the fields and now seen millions of domestic poultry dying or being euthanized to try and stop it from spreading.