Attacked and killed by wolves

[Caseknife]

A related Essay by Dr. Valerius Geist

Death by Wolves and Misleading Advocacy - The Kenton Carnegie Tragedy

On November 8th, 2005, a 22-year-old honors and scholarship student in Geological Engineering, Kenton Joel Carnegie, from the University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, was killed in northern Saskatchewan by a pack of wolves.

www.boone-crockett.org

I toyed with the idea of continuing my BS in Wildlife Management and getting a Masters at the University of Alberta under Dr. Geist in the mid 80's, I wish now that I had acted upon that idea. Excellent article, as are any by Geist.

 

[z987k]

I'd much rather deal with a brown bear than a pack of wolves.

Nothing has ever woken me faster than the close howl of wolves in a tent.

 

[leavy76]

I heard/read that the wolves in Europe had a significant impact on both sides in WW1.

I can’t remember the specifics but it would line up with that you mentioned.

There's a quick little write up on Meateater about this very topic. It seems that (displaced) wolves became opportunistic and were scavenging dead and in some cases killing severely wounded soldiers: https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/wolf/fact-checker-was-there-a-ceasefire-during-wwi-to-hunt-wolves

 

[Hnthrdr]

What's the wolf's name?

“Aspen” because she will heal the land and bring more aspens

 

[Hnthrdr]

I'd much rather deal with a brown bear than a pack of wolves.

Nothing has ever woken me faster than the close howl of wolves in a tent.

1-1 > than 1-(6-10)…

 

[z987k]

1-1 > than 1-(6-10)…

Very much so. I can shoot 1 bear. My rifle doesn't hold enough rounds to deal with a pack of wolves.

 

[journeyman713]

The only thing that surprises me about this story is that is doesn't happen more often, and closer to home.

Just in my personal experience bow/gun hunting out of a remote cabin in Lincoln county Wisconsin over 10 years, I've lost track of how many close encounters with wolves there's been. Been stalked regularly, sometimes, quietly, sometimes with them howling the whole way, when they do this, they are both paralleling and behind. Been charged head on at full speed, he put the brakes on just feet away, leaves piled up in front of his feet. Had one go into a pounce position close to me, and think about for far too long. Had a group stalk me to my tree stand just before light, they lost me as I went up, at first light I could see they circled around in an organized spread-out line looking for me. They are no joke.

In most of these cases, I figured it was just one small detail that stopped them from going into a kill mode. If a person were to run, look afraid, or be unlucky, I figure it would setoff their instinctual chase mechanism beyond return.

It definitely helps that bowhunters in this state are allowed to carry a sidearm, but they have better night vision than we do. It's just so hard to believe, such a high percentage of people have been so lucky, for so long.

 

[fuzzymarindave]

The city-folk will dismiss these encounters by saying that humans are invading the wolves home. That argument rubs me the wrong way because as a human I believe that I have the same right to the woods as the wolf does.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

“Aspen” because she will heal the land and bring more aspens

And immediately cure CWD while stopping climate change…..

 

[Hnthrdr]

And immediately cure CWD while stopping climate change…..

They just fix everything, can’t believe they got rid of them back in the day… must not have known what’s really going on

 

[BuckSmasher]

I get that some of y'all on here are really strongly anti-wolf but are y'all seriously scared of getting eaten by a wolf? I mean come on....

 

[Beendare]

I toyed with the idea of continuing my BS in Wildlife Management and getting a Masters at the University of Alberta under Dr. Geist in the mid 80's, I wish now that I had acted upon that idea. Excellent article, as are any by Geist.

Thanks for posting that.

Isn't it interesting that Pacquet character and Net Geo tried to fake news that whole situation and blame it on Bears. What a joke.

Guaranteed these wolf re introductions rely on similar hack science, in fact, isn't CO pausing their Wolf program now that the facts of wolves destruction is leaking out?

 

[Crowmangler]

 

[Turkeytider]

I can’t understand how or why, in certain parts, one would go more than 10 ft from a cabin unarmed. Wouldn’t need it 9 out of 10 times……Ah….but that 10th time!
“ Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it “ is one of the wisest adages out there, IMHO.

 

[IronNoggin]

... but they have better night vision than we do.

That is true. Their eyes are built to see MUCH better in the dark than most other mammals.

In addition they also carry the inborn capacity of sensing thermally.

 

[IronNoggin]

... but they have better night vision than we do.

That is true. Their eyes are built to see MUCH better in the dark than most other mammals.

In addition they also carry the inborn capacity of sensing thermally.

Some research also indicates they may actually see somewhat into the infrared spectrum.

 

[MorelMan]

That is true. Their eyes are built to see MUCH better in the dark than most other mammals.

In addition they also carry the inborn capacity of sensing thermally.

Some research also indicates they may actually see somewhat into the infrared spectrum.

What research shows wolves can see infrared? They can detect heat from a couple meters away through warming of their nose, but I highly doubt they have a photopigment that can isomerize to infrared.

 

[crossone]

Wasn't there a pack of wolves in Yellowstone that taught itself how to kill bison? Eventually, I think that pack began to specialize in killing bison.

Now imagine what happens, when something happens and wolves take down a person. Might that pack decide to specialize on them too? Sorry. I just can't help to wonder just how horrible it would be to have wolves set their sights on humans.

 

[MarlinMark]

A girl was killed in 2010 by wolves in AK, a forest service worker was treed by wolves in WA in 2018, Alaska also has about 2300 people go missing every year, how many of them are killed by wolves or bears? I've been in the middle of a pack of wolves in the frank church back in 2015 and they had zero fear of humans, especially in the dark, we were shining mag lights at them at under 100 yards and about 8-10 of them were pacing back and forth in the timber howling and barking at us. I have audio of them but didn't have a phone with video at the time.

As wolves get more and more prevalent, we will see more attacks, just like lions and grizzly bears, wolves in much of the west are becoming a major problem. We just saw a big black wolf yesterday here in Eastern Oregon that has been helping to decimate our deer herd over the last few months and there was a video posted of a pack walking down someones driveway a couple miles from my house. Our neighbors have them on trail cams in town, same with lions and bears, it's only a matter of time before someone gets killed again.

A couple of years ago our next-door neighbor that is a teacher, came home on an early release day from school to a lion in the tree above her kids trampoline in their front yard. She went inside and got a rifle and killed it, its just lucky that it was an early release day or here two kids that were in kindergarten and third grade would have been walking home alone from the bus stop.

What town was that?

 

[NMJM]

I get that some of y'all on here are really strongly anti-wolf but are y'all seriously scared of getting eaten by a wolf? I mean come on....

Absolutely!!! If you all are scared of wolves killing you, how do you ever leave the house? You are way more likely to be struck by lightning than injured by a wolf. How do you ever climb a ladder without having a full blown panic attack? Have you seen the stats on falls in the bathroom? Use a little common sense and you will never have to worry about wolves. Just to put it out there I am all for the delisting of wolves, I am pro wolf hunting and I am all for states managing wolves as they see fit.