Arrow flight? Or is it me? Need help!

[Ice-kub]

I had a Stan perfeX (loved that release) and a Carter wishing now I would not have gotten rid of them haha. Might go back at try the Carter two simple

Nothing wrong with a collection haha

 

[bushwhacker1975]

Your fletching is it 2" i kkow an old timer archer told me get bigger vanes it will improve ur accuracy. I was very reluctant but it actually worked maybe it's just in my head but i'm shooting a lot better groups

 

[TTurboEE]

Your fletching is it 2" i kkow an old timer archer told me get bigger vanes it will improve ur accuracy. I was very reluctant but it actually worked maybe it's just in my head but i'm shooting a lot better groups

Thats something I do want to try also is a different vane configuration in the future

 

[bigunit]

There's been a few times I had erratic arrow flight and its always been nock pinch. How tight is your nock in the d loop? I like 1/16" to 1/32" of movement.

 

[billysmals]

Others have suggested good things. Assuming your bow is tuned, and in correct timing...

For me when I get a weird group....for context I have shoot the mini saber 2-3 helical for the past two years and I find it to be a fantastic vane.

1. Is it just that arrow? I number my shafts (like you). Take note of which arrow(s) are flying strange. If it is the same one over and over then there is likely the answer. Put it on an arrow spinner and see. You can try nock tuning the weird one if it's just one arrow. Now if it's many different arrows, then its usually not an arrow problem if you have the correct spine arrow -and you appear too have that. Improper spine will create inconsistent groups.

2. bare shaft- this is really really helpful. It'll tell you all about your form and your tune. If I have a bad shot, torque, punch, flinch...burp....it's gonna make it go all over. Don't take one shot as gospel...shoot the bare shaft a bunch to see what is happening. Start at 20 yards....if you have good form and the arrows don't group together with bareshaft adjust the cams first before screwing with the rest (this is just my approach).

3. Vane contact- I have had the same problem you describe with this. Spray your arrow with athletes foot powder or baking soda. The white powder will wear off the arrow and it'll mark where it is contacting the bow.

4. Nock pinch---this is a good check too. It'll cause an inconsistent release from the string.

If these 4 are all good then its .....

5. Form- most have covered this (grip, torque, anchor, release punch, fatigue, bubble level..) .but what sight are you using? Moveable? 1 pin? 3 pin? 5 pin? I ask because if you have a mover sight and you are rolling your sight down for longer yardage it will affect your peep to sight orientation. Most of the time as you shoot farther your head will tilt down just slightly to line up the peep and the sight and it adds to the form issues.

6. Video your shot process from draw to anchor to release. Use a tripod and just film the whole 3 arrow session. Video helps figure out all sorts of form and shot process issues. You can time how long it takes from anchor to release. You can also get an idea if your draw length is appropriate. I filmed myself at the draw length I had shot for over a year, then I dropped a 1/2 in just as an experiemnt and it was a huge difference on film. I didn't feel like it was that strange to anchor on both draw lenths, but video doesn't lie and my form was better as I wasn't as stretche dout and reaching.... Also this may seem silly, but describe your feeling at each shot...did you feel like it was a good release? Or where you fatigued, wobbly, or punched? That helps when you compare it to the shot of each arrow

7. Film the arrow flight from behind you. Play it back on slow mo...you don't need a high speed camera to see some fish tailing or bad fight. Most phones can film with enough fps to give you an idea...