Argali no longer using Piton Stakes?

[doverpack12]

Anyone know when Argali stopped sending tents with Piton Stakes? I bought a tent and it came with what look like the aluminum Easton nails.
Fairly disappointed about that. Website still says it comes with Piton stakes.

I actually added some Piton stakes to my order because I wanted them for another tent.

 

[Brad@Argali]

Anyone know when Argali stopped sending tents with Piton Stakes? I bought a tent and it came with what look like the aluminum Easton nails.
Fairly disappointed about that. Website still says it comes with Piton stakes.

I actually added some Piton stakes to my order because I wanted them for another tent.

Hi there,

Im assuming you bought our 8P tent with our new, stronger stakes? Ive been testing those for some time and for now you should only be getting them with a Yukon 8P tent as they are stronger and are better suited for the Yukon. However, ill gladly swap you out for the Piton stakes. Just shoot me a DM and I'll send you some.

Brad

 

[doverpack12]

Thanks Brad,

If you think they are stronger and better suited to the 8P then I’ll give them a try. I can tell they are not Easton stakes or like them that I have used in the past. Those didn’t like rocks and bent easy.

How is the holding strength in various ground with the fatter round stake vs the Piton with angles?

 

[Brad@Argali]

Thanks Brad,

If you think they are stronger and better suited to the 8P then I’ll give them a try. I can tell they are not Easton stakes or like them that I have used in the past. Those didn’t like rocks and bent easy.

How is the holding strength in various ground with the fatter round stake vs the Piton with angles?

they are stronger, and Ive found them to hold better in the soil types Ive used them in. they are a little heavier than the Piton stakes, but they handle abuse a bit better as well which is why we included them with the bigger tents.

 

[doverpack12]

@Brad@Argali i would recommend an immediate change in stakes you ship with the Yukon and any other tent you are using the new round stakes for.

The stakes have an inherent weak point where the head ends and the tube begins. The pictures below are my first setup and use from this past weekend, other than setting up in my front yard. I broke 7 stakes, was able to utilize one. I’m not hard on gear and typically don’t break my gear.

Thankfully I had 6 extra stakes to guy out one end of the tent (could have used those in the storms we had) so was able to get all stake points in the ground. The pitons I had as extras drove where the round stakes broke, but the head bent a little on a few instead of snapping off. The Easton nails I had must be thicker, I beat the heck out of one at 12:30 am in a raging storm and never broke it and got it driven in.

My observation is that the stake tube cannot handle any force/energy from the head if there is a hard blow or slightly off center hit. (Like using a rock to pound in and encountering hard resistance like a rock in the ground). An internal sleeve that extends to the top of the head and 3/4” or so past the head/tube junction might fix the issue.

Right now these round stakes are a liability for anyone using them. The logs in the picture were added in the middle of the night as we were loosing stakes due to wind and loosening in the ground. Couldn’t find a big enough rock to be worthwhile as far as helping to hold a stake in.

 

[Brad@Argali]

@Brad@Argali i would recommend an immediate change in stakes you ship with the Yukon and any other tent you are using the new round stakes for.

The stakes have an inherent weak point where the head ends and the tube begins. The pictures below are my first setup and use from this past weekend, other than setting up in my front yard. I broke 7 stakes, was able to utilize one. I’m not hard on gear and typically don’t break my gear.

Thankfully I had 6 extra stakes to guy out one end of the tent (could have used those in the storms we had) so was able to get all stake points in the ground. The pitons I had as extras drove where the round stakes broke, but the head bent a little on a few instead of snapping off. The Easton nails I had must be thicker, I beat the heck out of one at 12:30 am in a raging storm and never broke it and got it driven in.

My observation is that the stake tube cannot handle any force/energy from the head if there is a hard blow or slightly off center hit. (Like using a rock to pound in and encountering hard resistance like a rock in the ground). An internal sleeve that extends to the top of the head and 3/4” or so past the head/tube junction might fix the issue.

Right now these round stakes are a liability for anyone using them. The logs in the picture were added in the middle of the night as we were loosing stakes due to wind and loosening in the ground. Couldn’t find a big enough rock to be worthwhile as far as helping to hold a stake in.

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Thanks for flagging this. We will get it fixed. In the meantime, if you can shoot us an email at [email protected], we will get you replacement Piton stakes.

Honestly don't know what happened. I tested samples of these stakes extensively and they were bomber. Regardless, I apologize and we will fix it and take care of it.

 

[doverpack12]

Thanks for the response Brad. I absolutely believe you tested them thoroughly.

Rokslide is about our experiences in real use, your willingness to look into and address my experience is what keeps us coming back to Argali for products when we need them.