Are they as rare as hen's teeth?

Then aside from the RS Tikka fixation ( well-earned btw), how do you explain the complete lack of mossberg supporters when someone seeks budget rifle recommendations? At least thats my anecdotal observation. Recently ive seen Sauer, Ruger, Savage, but I cant recall a single person throwing out the Patriot as a good option.
I had a fancy Patriot 6.5 CM. I think it was a Long Range version or something. What a POS. It actually shot great but the receiver scope mount holes were so far off my scope wouldn't dial enough to sight it in. Ended up using Burris insert rings with the kit of different offset inserts to make up the difference. The trigger needed to be pulled straight from the front. Any side load on it at all and it would just click. Needless to say, it went away.
That's why I'd never recommend it as a cheap gun. There are better options.
 
Then aside from the RS Tikka fixation ( well-earned btw), how do you explain the complete lack of mossberg supporters when someone seeks budget rifle recommendations? At least thats my anecdotal observation. Recently ive seen Sauer, Ruger, Savage, but I cant recall a single person throwing out the Patriot as a good option.

For myself, I’ve never owned, shot or even handled one so I wouldn’t comment on it at all.

Maybe that’s one reason?
 
There's a 100ATR in my family that has killed a lot of deer. It shoots well and is pretty light weight. Nothing wrong with having a beater around if it shoots well.
My first big game rifle was a 100 ATR in 30-06 in a black synthetic stock I received as a Christmas gift as a teenager. It's a shooter for sure, so much that I can't change anything on it. I'm pretty sure the scope costs more than the rifle, but pretty much any 180gr bullet will go under an inch for three. I'm constantly impressed with the little rifle that could, have all the confidence in the world in it.
 
I had a fancy Patriot 6.5 CM. I think it was a Long Range version or something. What a POS. It actually shot great but the receiver scope mount holes were so far off my scope wouldn't dial enough to sight it in. Ended up using Burris insert rings with the kit of different offset inserts to make up the difference. The trigger needed to be pulled straight from the front. Any side load on it at all and it would just click. Needless to say, it went away.
That's why I'd never recommend it as a cheap gun. There are better options.

POS that shot great, Hmmm.

Sounds like you had a lack of windage adjustment. There are many factors that could result in that, least likely of which, would be the gun itself. All being corrected with the shim kit you used.

How did you rule out, it wasn’t the mounts, the scope itself, scope mounted out of level, etc. and conclude the entire gun manufacturer is the problem?
 
He and his wife have a history of extremely thoughtless/borderline disrepectful gifts for everyone, not just us(this year he got my 52yo wife a small stuffed unicorn because............?). I will, of course, never mention it to him. But wtf.
I got someone I could introduce to whose experiences have your FIL in the minor leagues. Has your FIL given your kids 100s in the realistic movie money, “just kidding it’s fake” after their initial reaction? Has your wife been gifted lingerie? Do you receive random boxes of cabbage?
 
POS that shot great, Hmmm.

Sounds like you had a lack of windage adjustment. There are many factors that could result in that, least likely of which, would be the gun itself. All being corrected with the shim kit you used.

How did you rule out, it wasn’t the mounts, the scope itself, scope mounted out of level, etc. and conclude the entire gun manufacturer is the problem?
The manufacturer design does have a fatal flaw, a piece of brittle plastic at the trigger guard, tightening the action screw to +30lbs psi will break the plastic
And prevent any chance of accuracy!
The composite stock 375r is a 7lbs kicking beast, and added weight is the only cure. So many better options out there, I would recommend buying a different brand for $150-200 more and avoid dealing with Mossberg problems
 
POS that shot great, Hmmm.

Sounds like you had a lack of windage adjustment. There are many factors that could result in that, least likely of which, would be the gun itself. All being corrected with the shim kit you used.

How did you rule out, it wasn’t the mounts, the scope itself, scope mounted out of level, etc. and conclude the entire gun manufacturer is the problem?
There's more to a gun than just accuracy. I have plenty of guns that shoot well and function correctly.
The scope had been used with no issues on other guns and reticle was centered before mounting. I guess it could have been the rings, but I never have had any issues with these in the past.
I didn't bring up the fact that the bolt was rough and sloppy. After reading about the trigger issues on this version and finding out the only real fix for the unsafe trigger was to replace the trigger, it wasn't worth it to me. This version actually cost more than a lower level Tikka and quality was nowhere near a Tikka.
Hopefully someone else is enjoying it now because it wasn't for me.
 
I must be extremely lucky, because I bought one a few years back new for $389 because it felt great, had a fluted cerakoted barrel, was threaded, nice recoil pad, and adjustable trigger. I had no intentions of buying anything that day and definitely am not a cheap rifle buyer. It was in 6.5 PRC and I figured I could use it as a loaner or beater in the side by side if needed. Bought a box of Hornady 143 ELDX to see what she could do. Didn't do any normal break in and after I left the range and an empty box of ammo, she was shooting .5 moa. Immediately had my buddy run up and buy the other one for his son. It wasn't as nice of a model, but basically the same 6.5 PRC. He went to the range and got his to .5 moa as well. Since that day, I've pushed those Patriots to everybody I know looking for a new rifle with a budget. Zero complaints. Mine has been in the foreground of many moose, elk, and deer pictures from friends and family. The action is as smooth as most of my customs as well and definitely better than any of my Remington, Winchester, or Ruger factory rifles. Price has went up on them now, but I will say that's the best $389 I've ever spent on a rifle. Hell, I've paid more in taxes for rifles than this cost out the door.
 
We have two - older - Mossberg Patriot rifles kicking around the ranch. One is an older wood stocked 308 and the other is a Super Bantam Youth model in 6.5cm that have basically rebuilt except for the barreled action.
The 6.5 is a real shooter and my 4'11" wife loves it because she knows nothing about rifles, it fits her, and she shoots it well. I've set it up with a can, cut the barrel to 16.25", floated and weighted the stock and barrel channel, bedded the action lug, and tossed a red dot on there for her cross-eye-dominate issue. Now it is the first rifle that I grab when hopping on the quad or SxS to kick around or work here on our property. Who knows how many deer, hogs, and yotes that thing has killed. The 308 is best termed a "utility" rifle. ~2.5-inch groups with about any ammo you can throw at it. Never very accurate but 2-inch guns will kill a lot of critters if they are reliable and this one is. It has become a pretty good el cheapo loaner rifle.
Not that I would buy a current production one on a bet.
 

I got mine shooting .5 moa with factory Hornady ammo. It took 4 whitetail deer this year between me and my son.
 
Took my son around to several shops so he could get hands on his first rifle. He loved the feel and look of the patriot predator - camo stock, threaded cerakote barrel and spiral fluted bolt. Disassembled, degreased, snugged action screws to 40in-lb, adjusted trigger pull, hugged out flimsy forend to prevent barrel contact. Added Victor Titan cheek riser. With the cheek riser I'm probably in $500 after all tax etc.

Is the bolt a little sloppy? Sure... Stock a little flimsy? Yeah... But it shoots a lot of box ammo and now hand loads purdy well, and didn't have to pay to have it threaded to slip a can on it. Wouldn't take that long bastard out of state, but I have no intention of selling it for now.
 
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