Anything I can do? Hunter Harassment?

[wind gypsy]

What is the overall length?

It's in the original post and its not 400 yards.

Immediately after asking this he began to construct a 100 plus yard wall out of fallen debris in the woods to cut off the woodlot funnel.

 

[KenLee]

Got to tip your hat to the guy. Corner of the house to the the property line, in 2 directions, 5 feet tall, 1 van load at a time. That took some effort.

I'm hearing Clint "Get off my lawn!"

 

[wind gypsy]

Picture a square parcel with a house smack in the middle. Then a line coming from one side of the house perpendicular to the square sides. Thats what he did with the wall

Do the properties lay out in a manner that deer travel might just re-route to a different part of the parcel you have access to hunt?

 

[NYSKIER]

Got to tip your hat to the guy. Corner of the house to the the property line, in 2 directions, 5 feet tall, 1 van load at a time. That took some effort.

I was amazed myself

 

[NYSKIER]

Do the properties lay out in a manner that deer travel might just re-route to a different part of the parcel you have access to hunt?

Doesn't seem that way but maybe since he completed it this year things will change next year. We'll see, only thing I've learned out of this is in suburban areas keep hunting secret unless you absolutely need to mention it.

 

[go_deep]

Maybe for the fourth of July you should strategically shoot some bottle rockets and Roman candles into that brush pile...

 

[Rich M]

The goal isn't to talk him down, you completely missed the point. No worries.

No, it's to become "buddies" to get friendly and comfortable with each other.

You and I could come to an agreement. I can't come to an agreement with my dad's neighbors, even tho i've known em for 40 years. They'll come over in the middle of the night to change a tire but won't allow hunting. Just how it is.

 

[Fordguy]

It's in the original post and its not 400 yards.

The 400 yards that applies in Michigan, was just an example. Generally, states set their own rules on fences. Pretty sure he's not hunting in Michigan (without rereading to check).

 

[Scottf270]

Sometimes talking to folks is the wrong idea. I'm not advocating trespassing, I'm just saying some things are best left unsaid.

 

[dtrkyman]

If the wall is not on his land then would make a hole in it, who's property is the wall on?

 

[NEWYORKHILLBILLY]

I had a guy that wanted to put up a ten-foot fence so the deer would not cross over on my brother's property. And this guy was a hunter. I must say he just took the fun out of the hunt. my brother finally sold him the land. I got a call the night before opener from the realtor that a purchased offer was signed, and part of that agreement is I would not hunt there this season. First time I ever been kicked off land the guy didn't even own yet. anyways I don't think it hunter harassment. Just another NY A**hole. we have a bunch of them.

 

[amassi]

Catch and release a few dozen beavers on his property


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[stanginthe11s]

add some more sticks and have a natural blind. then when he comes out to yell, offer him a cup of coffee and tell him to whisper so as not to alert the deer.
you could also just call the town and complain about the unsightly pile of crap in the woods, that will solve the problem quietly. for future reference, retrieving game is not trespassing and a landowner cannot interfere with such action. if one does, call the DEC and they will handle that person appropriately. so basically, keep quiet until there's a real problem.

 

[stanginthe11s]

NYS law

 

[stanginthe11s]

in NY, you can enter property to retrieve game without permission. you cannot sit there and field dress it, you must leave right away. if a landowner denies you and gives you a hard time, the DEC will come and retrieve the deer.
a lot of states have that law, as it is impossible to control a wounded animal. there are stipulations of course, but it at least covers you a little from trespass laws. that being said, it's still a good idea to ask permission if a wounded animal crosses over but do it when that happens not before.

 

[Fordguy]

How do you figure?

In the states that I've been a resident, you have no legal right to pursue or retrieve a game animal from someone else's property without permission. If you do, you are trespassing and subject to prosecution.
From my point of view, if someone politely asks me for permission, I'll most likely say yes, and help them retrieve their animal.

I expect the same courtesy from someone else that I would give if I were in their shoes. I sometimes hunt small parcels and I've lost a deer because the neighbors didn't want me entering their swamp. I wasn't thrilled, but I understood. I wouldn't want anyone stomping through any of my sanctuary areas either.

If someone just comes marching through my property without permission (where I'm likely to be hunting), the game Warden is getting a call and tickets will be issued. I spend too much time, effort, and money on land management for my hunting to let anyone come traipsing through randomly. Their failure to put the animal on the ground on their own property does not give them the right to enter my property without my express permission.

I'd like to know more about this NY law that allows you to retrieve game animals without landowner permission. How do you proove that you are retrieving and not pursuing? A three legged, gut-shot BOAL can leave a visible blood trail and still not be fatally hit...

 

[Pickettpuncher]

add some more sticks and have a natural blind. then when he comes out to yell, offer him a cup of coffee and tell him to whisper so as not to alert the deer.
you could also just call the town and complain about the unsightly pile of crap in the woods, that will solve the problem quietly. for future reference, retrieving game is not trespassing and a landowner cannot interfere with such action. if one does, call the DEC and they will handle that person appropriately. so basically, keep quiet until there's a real problem.

Some states do not allow you to retrieve game on land you do not have permission to access. And no, the game warden can’t always retrieve it either.

 

[Pickettpuncher]

In the states that I've been a resident, you have no legal right to pursue or retrieve a game animal from someone else's property without permission. If you do, you are trespassing and subject to prosecution.
From my point of view, if someone politely asks me for permission, I'll most likely say yes, and help them retrieve their animal.

I expect the same courtesy from someone else that I would give if I were in their shoes. I sometimes hunt small parcels and I've lost a deer because the neighbors didn't want me entering their swamp. I wasn't thrilled, but I understood. I wouldn't want anyone stomping through any of my sanctuary areas either.

If someone just comes marching through my property without permission (where I'm likely to be hunting), the game Warden is getting a call and tickets will be issued. I spend too much time, effort, and money on land management for my hunting to let anyone come traipsing through randomly. Their failure to put the animal on the ground on their own property does not give them the right to enter my property without my express permission.

I'd like to know more about this NY law that allows you to retrieve game animals without landowner permission. How do you proove that you are retrieving and not pursuing? A three legged, gut-shot BOAL can leave a visible blood trail and still not be fatally hit...

Every state is different but I like your approach. Explain the situation and let’s go find your deer. I think Iowa lets you retrieve on a neighbor but you can’t take your weapon if you don’t have permission. Tennessee does not allow anyone, the hunter nor the game warden to retrieve if permission is not granted. Every state would have a ruling on this

 

[Fordguy]

One of the properties I hunt is 10 acres. Haven't lost a deer there yet (none have made it off of the property, in 5 years of hunting), but I'm very careful with my shots. 20 yard limit for archery shots and my rifle shots are usually the same distance. Not to say that I'll never have one leave the property, but neighbors on 3 sides don't mind if I retrieve one from their property. The 4th neighbor I don't speak to. He likes to spend rifle season in his side by side driving the property line trying to push deer back into his property and away from me.
At what size is a property too small to hunt?

 

[Fordguy]

Hey, don't knock the Red Ryder...
Some small parcels consistently produce big deer. While I'd rather have room to roam, I'll take mature bucks and plenty of does where I find them.