Anyone familiar with the Cimarron River in NM?

[dtrkyman]

I enjoy jabbing the fly guys about fishing for invasive species and man made fish.

Finding truly wild fish is a challenge or maybe impossible in this state. Browns are prolific and do well, have out competed natives everywhere they exist.

They all exist in some beautiful places so I like to focus on that.

 

[Ferrulewax]

I dont think the term “wild” as its being used in this thread is accurate. Brown trout in the US aren’t wild, they are “feral”. They originate from domestic hatchery stock.

I would break this down into wild vs native. Natives are supposed to be there, wild fish are any fish that were born in the stream (not stocked)

 

[displacedtexan]

It was a pretty low bar IQ test but I'm happy you passed.

To be fair, fly fishermen are worse hotspotters than western hunters...

 

[displacedtexan]

I would break this down into wild vs native. Natives are supposed to be there, wild fish are any fish that were born in the stream (not stocked)

So hogs in the SE and horses in the SW and cats all over are wild?

 

[Ferrulewax]

So hogs in the SE and horses in the SW and cats all over are wild?

Yes. Thats why they are often referred to as wild horses and wild hogs. I would say that wild and feral are pretty much synonymous.

Wild distinguishes them as born in the wild/not domestic or pets, IMO.

Native distinguishes them as naturally occurring, hence phrases like “Native range”. Native is synonymous with indigenous in my lexicon.

 

[displacedtexan]

Yes. Thats why they are often referred to as wild horses and wild hogs. I would say that wild and feral are pretty much synonymous.

Wild distinguishes them as born in the wild/not domestic or pets, IMO.

Native distinguishes them as naturally occurring, hence phrases like “Native range”. Native is synonymous with indigenous in my lexicon.

Maybe you should buy a dictionary.

 

[dieselchessy]

I would break this down into wild vs native. Natives are supposed to be there, wild fish are any fish that were born in the stream (not stocked)

That kind of logic is why we have legislation to protect feral (wild) horses and burrows.
By that logic any species would only be feral for a single generation.
Using the term “wild” to describe the offspring of hatchery fish that are not native to a watershed seems like its been proven out as a bad idea.

Im of the opinion feral critters cannot breed themselves out of being feral.

If folks want to do a “put and take” trout fishery, cool. But please don't call them wild.

 

[SDHNTR]

This thread was never about Wild vs native. How did we end up here? This is about wild vs stocked. Big difference.

 

[Ferrulewax]

This thread was never about Wild vs native. How did we end up here? This is about wild vs stocked. Big difference.

Wild vs stocked? Or feral vs stocked?

Sorry, I had to.

 

[displacedtexan]

This thread was never about Wild vs native. How did we end up here? This is about wild vs stocked. Big difference.

Welcome to the internet.

Would you have preferred being skewered for being unable to find the kind of water you want to fish?