Anybody watch state of the union?

[HuntHarder]

Couldn't agree more. Glad you made it and you are still alive. You have confirmed my exact thoughts. You lived your life frugal before your unfortunate health event and it helped you make it thru that terrible time.

Living your life within your means and maybe even frugal at times is a foreign concept for many.

 

[KurtR]

I am not going to argue with you as I agree with a lot of what you said but when was the last time you saw a decent house for 200K?

out here 200k gets you a brand new house with a full basement 1500-1700 sq ft. Mine is only 1300 and was 183000. Full icf basement. But grocery’s are expensive since there is no Walmarts.

 

[EastMT]

out here 200k gets you a brand new house with a full basement 1500-1700 sq ft. Mine is only 1300 and was 183000. Full icf basement. But grocery’s are expensive since there is no Walmarts.

There are a few places left, just signed papers on a brand new 3/2/2 house 1550 sq ft, tile, granite, brick for $165. Moving there on purpose for that reason. Not my favorite area in the US, but close enough to the places I want to play.

 

[AK Troutbum]

There are a few places left, just signed papers on a brand new 3/2/2 house 1550 sq ft, tile, granite, brick for $165. Moving there on purpose for that reason. Not my favorite area in the US, but close enough to the places I want to play.

Jeremy, where ya going?


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[5MilesBack]

Long overdue. Vindman should be facing courts martial for mishandling classified material.

He could just pull the Hillary defense on however she got off of mishandling classified material. We have a precedent now.

Back to saving........I learned early on from my dad. He always said, "First give God his share, then pay yourself, and then pay your bills. If you don't have enough, then your bills are too high.......cut something out. But you cut from the bottom up, not the top down." Most people cut from the top, then they wonder why they have problems.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Couldn't agree more. Glad you made it and you are still alive. You have confirmed my exact thoughts. You lived your life frugal before your unfortunate health event and it helped you make it thru that terrible time.

Living your life within your means and maybe even frugal at times is a foreign concept for many.

Yes it did. Had we bought a house and land or, a nicer house in a more expensive neighborhood, there simply would have been no way to keep making the payment once the hospital bills started coming in.

I agree with the conservative;s on this thread. About everything. I applaud the parents that have the ability and knowledge to prepare their kids for a financial world that will eat them alive with a less then wise decision concerning money. But, I also agree with others in that today's America, with the presence of an illegal immigrant work force, wages that remained stagnant for a long time, and the cost of everything in relation to lower pay rates that this is a far different place for younger people trying to get started. Yes, it is up to everyone of us to make ourselves more valuable in the work force. However, that takes knowledge and knowledge requires an investment of time and money to acquire. So, to expect a young person to be able to come out the door and to save money while paying rent, for a car, for food, insurance that has doubled and tripled since the ACA, etc.... is not being realistic.

Life's always been a marathon. It takes time, hard work, planning, and dedication to get yourself in a position to be able to benefit from your income. Nothing has made that reality untrue today. However the circumstances surrounding that reality is far different in today's world versus 25 years ago. My first loan I took out I made $5 hour. I paid for that car and all my other bills on that. Today, $12 an hour would be a stretch to do the same for young people where I live. In other places, you could double that $12 an hour and still be toeing the line in order to survive. And, I don't know of anywhere that an uneducated, unskilled worker starts at $24 an hour.

 

[KurtR]

Yes it did. Had we bought a house and land or, a nicer house in a more expensive neighborhood, there simply would have been no way to keep making the payment once the hospital bills started coming in.

I agree with the conservative;s on this thread. About everything. I applaud the parents that have the ability and knowledge to prepare their kids for a financial world that will eat them alive with a less then wise decision concerning money. But, I also agree with others in that today's America, with the presence of an illegal immigrant work force, wages that remained stagnant for a long time, and the cost of everything in relation to lower pay rates that this is a far different place for younger people trying to get started. Yes, it is up to everyone of us to make ourselves more valuable in the work force. However, that takes knowledge and knowledge requires an investment of time and money to acquire. So, to expect a young person to be able to come out the door and to save money while paying rent, for a car, for food, insurance that has doubled and tripled since the ACA, etc.... is not being realistic.

Life's always been a marathon. It takes time, hard work, planning, and dedication to get yourself in a position to be able to benefit from your income. Nothing has made that reality untrue today. However the circumstances surrounding that reality is far different in today's world versus 25 years ago. My first loan I took out I made $5 hour. I paid for that car and all my other bills on that. Today, $12 an hour would be a stretch to do the same for young people where I live. In other places, you could double that $12 an hour and still be toeing the line in order to survive. And, I don't know of anywhere that an uneducated, unskilled worker starts at $24 an hour.

South Dakota pilot car driver on construction then flagers are right at 21.00 hour on all dot jobs. We pretty much start any one off the street at 16.00 just for having a heart beat. You prove that you can show up it goes up fast. Average 60 hrs a week for 9 months. Money to be made problem is there is work to be done. Most don’t like the second part

 

[HuntHarder]

There is work to be done while being a pilot car driver?

 

[CorbLand]

Yes it did. Had we bought a house and land or, a nicer house in a more expensive neighborhood, there simply would have been no way to keep making the payment once the hospital bills started coming in.

I agree with the conservative;s on this thread. About everything. I applaud the parents that have the ability and knowledge to prepare their kids for a financial world that will eat them alive with a less then wise decision concerning money. But, I also agree with others in that today's America, with the presence of an illegal immigrant work force, wages that remained stagnant for a long time, and the cost of everything in relation to lower pay rates that this is a far different place for younger people trying to get started. Yes, it is up to everyone of us to make ourselves more valuable in the work force. However, that takes knowledge and knowledge requires an investment of time and money to acquire. So, to expect a young person to be able to come out the door and to save money while paying rent, for a car, for food, insurance that has doubled and tripled since the ACA, etc.... is not being realistic.

Life's always been a marathon. It takes time, hard work, planning, and dedication to get yourself in a position to be able to benefit from your income. Nothing has made that reality untrue today. However the circumstances surrounding that reality is far different in today's world versus 25 years ago. My first loan I took out I made $5 hour. I paid for that car and all my other bills on that. Today, $12 an hour would be a stretch to do the same for young people where I live. In other places, you could double that $12 an hour and still be toeing the line in order to survive. And, I don't know of anywhere that an uneducated, unskilled worker starts at $24 an hour.

There is a lot of truth in this post.


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[KurtR]

There is work to be done while being a pilot car driver?

ya show up and drive back and forth. Doesn’t seem to be hard but showing up is for people.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

my 5 year old gets Donald trump and George Washington mixed up.

the state road signs in Washington have the outline of the great George Washington But she thinks it Donald trump. Fairly comical.

we were perusing her old passport and looked at the iconic 4 faces of Rushmore and she was asking who was the best (why do 6 year olds have to rank everything??)

Told her Washington. Why was the next question “Because he didn’t belong to a political party”... what’s a political party???

kids have a knack for getting right to the root of the problem.

 

[Rs3003]

I didn’t watch. We are quite divided at this point in history! Not good for the country!

 

[Ndbowhunter]

its Been worse. I think a lot more people are happy to bitch about perceived slights and differences but aren’t willing shed blood. At least not yet.

 

[Rs3003]

its Been worse. I think a lot more people are happy to bitch about perceived slights and differences but aren’t willing shed blood. At least not yet.

That’s good!

 

[Beendare]

State of the Union? ........Horribly Polarized!

The Dems hate Trump so bad they are willing to forsake EVERYTHING and instill hate in their base instead of doing what is best for our country going forward- which is of course sitting down and grinding out a solution that both sides can live with.

Think of what Trump has done; Health care inc high drug prices [trying anyway though he is saddled with Obamacare], A fair trade agreement with China that includes a solution for them ripping off our intellectual property rights, Revising NAFTA- an equitable US/Canada/Mexico trade agreement, improving the US job situation, Raising taxes for the rich [boo] Repatriating Corporate foreign taxes to the US, and many more important issues.

ALL THE WHILE FIGHTING POLITICIANS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLE- impressive actually.


We as citizens need to be vigilant and wary of this polarizing propaganda.

Polioticians are using polarity as a way to get in office and stay there all the while avoiding the issues. Both sides are pushing this polarity- and everyone loses.

We as citizens need to step back and o our own critical thinking beyond our chosen political party or favorite politician.

There are no Black and White problems in our country....but by the way politicians and slanted media talk- they are all black and white.

The real question; Are US citizens smart enough to analyze the gray areas?

From my perspective, yeah, there is hate on both sides....but at least Trump is working on US and world problems. If I was a hard core Dem, I would be miffed that dems are completely out of important issues...due to their own strategy of stonewalling and refusing to discuss anything. Can't blame that on Trump.

As a Trump supporter, I still need to look at both sides of an issue....and push for less sarcasm and quality discourse.

Now, the Dems have spectacularly inflamed Trump; how can you go to your boss to discuss an issue....after you just tried to get him fired and have made it personal to the EXTREME....good luck having that discussion...and in most cases it would just get you fired....again all due to your own doing.

We will see what the Dems are made of; Smart individuals take a step back and analyze the situation. Weak individuals defer blame...it always someone else that caused the problem. Hitching your wagon to friends or politicians that play the blame game is a loser strategy.

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[Savagenut]

The trade deal with China that screwed American farmers in the Middle of the growing season? Great deal there.

 

[HuntHarder]

The trade deal with China that screwed American farmers in the Middle of the growing season? Great deal there.

Com' on man!! a Few of my good buddies are Soybean farmers. One of them is the highest yielding in the north. They are both doing fantastic. Was there some uncertainty during negotiations? yes, but that is to be expected. All of my farmer buddies have more money than most that I know. Trust me, they are doing A-ok..

 

[brsnow]

Com' on man!! a Few of my good buddies are Soybean farmers. One of them is the highest yielding in the north. They are both doing fantastic. Was there some uncertainty during negotiations? yes, but that is to be expected. All of my farmer buddies have more money than most that I know. Trust me, they are doing A-ok..

Government subsidies are lucrative.

 

[tdhanses]

The trade deal with China that screwed American farmers in the Middle of the growing season? Great deal there.

Interesting, have only heard farmers praise Trump because they know they’ve been screwed for years and none I know of have gone under because of it.

 

[brsnow]

Interesting, have only heard farmers paradise Trump because they know they’ve been screwed for years and none I know of have gone under because of it.

Farmers get a better bailout than GM annually.