Any suggestions on pack frame smaller than 22"s

[shedhunt]

Hello!

Well I've been scouring the internet trying to find a pack frame that I can get in something smaller than 22"s and am hoping to find something that compares to Kifaru, Stone Glacier, Exo, etc..

Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Ferrulewax]

Is the exo k4 exs not small enough? You may be able to cut down the k4 22”, its worth a call to exo. What is your actual torso size?

 

[shedhunt]

Is the exo k4 exs not small enough? You may be able to cut down the k4 22”, its worth a call to exo. What is your actual torso size?

Well, I'm looking to get something shorter that can be used for other stuff where I'm not gonna be hauling anything heavy, avoiding the frame from sticking up above my head, etc

 

[Marbles]

Hello!

Well I've been scouring the internet trying to find a pack frame that I can get in something smaller than 22"s and am hoping to find something that compares to Kifaru, Stone Glacier, Exo, etc..

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Well, I'm looking to get something shorter that can be used for other stuff where I'm not gonna be hauling anything heavy, avoiding the frame from sticking up above my head, etc

I don't think those two go together. Frame hight enables comfortable load hauling.

If I needed one pack both to haul heave and use for light things, I would optimize the frame for hauling heavy. Then down the road try to add a pack for when I didn't need to carry heavy.

 

[shedhunt]

I don't think those two go together. Frame hight enables comfortable load hauling.

If I needed one pack both to haul heave and use for light things, I would optimize the frame for hauling heavy. Then down the road try to add a pack for when I didn't need to carry heavy.

I understand what your saying, but I already have several packs for hauling heavy loads. This is simply something that I want to utilize for a specific purpose, not big game hunting or heavy hauling. Just simply looking to see if there is even a frame out there that is potentially shorter than 22"s without modifications.

 

[Marbles]

I understand what your saying, but I already have several packs for hauling heavy loads. This is simply something that I want to utilize for a specific purpose, not big game hunting or heavy hauling. Just simply looking to see if there is even a frame out there that is potentially shorter than 22"s without modifications.

The purpose would help, you listed load hauling brands. Lots of smaller framed packs geared towards hiking that are adequate if not hauling heavy.

 

[shedhunt]

The purpose would help, you listed load hauling brands. Lots of smaller framed packs geared towards hiking that are adequate if not hauling heavy.

I understand that I listed those brands. As stated in my first post, I've scoured the Internet and am not finding the type of pack frame I'm wanting, which is why I listed those brands. They all have what I'm looking for in a frame.

Looking for a frame with molle webbing, good hip belt and lumbar pad, with multiple molle webbing anchor spots through out to attach to. Not looking for padded shoulder straps or very lightly padded. This would give me something to work off of for what I'm wanting to utilize it for.

 

[Macintosh]

As detailed as that description is Im not sure I understand what you want. Any pack with a good hip belt and lumbar pad is made to carry weight. Any pack designed to carry weight has padded shoulder straps and stays that protrude above your shoulders. It just doesnt carry weight well otherwise. The only pack I am aware of that is made to carry weight but doesnt have stays protruding above shoulders is a MR pop-up, simply because the “stays” can be collapsed specifically to make it lower profile for when you dont need them. If you arent looking for a pack made to carry weight, they dont generally have frames like that because the frame isnt needed.
I think if we’re missing what you’re looking for a description of what you want to do with it might help. It might not exist.

 

[shedhunt]

As detailed as that description is Im not sure I understand what you want. Any pack with a good hip belt and lumbar pad is made to carry weight. Any pack designed to carry weight has padded shoulder straps and stays that protrude above your shoulders. It just doesnt carry weight well otherwise. The only pack I am aware of that is made to carry weight but doesnt have stays protruding above shoulders is a MR pop-up, simply because the “stays” can be collapsed specifically to make it lower profile for when you dont need them. If you arent looking for a pack made to carry weight, they dont generally have frames like that because the frame isnt needed.
I think if we’re missing what you’re looking for a description of what you want to do with it might help. It might not exist.

Thanks, I think I've located a belt and strap system that will work for what I'm wanting to create. The reason for the vaugenss is that I'm wanting to build something that could potentially be used in the outdoors and if it doesn't go anywhere, oh well! But I've got a vision in my head and I want to build it. While I completely understand the reason for the frames build and purpose that I listed, there are components that make up those that are all part of what I'm looking at incorporating.

I realize I asked for help and I haven't said exactly what it is and may come across weird, so my apologies for that. Ak just looking to see if someone might of had any ideas.

 

[Ferrulewax]

Most tactical backpacks have really short stubby frames. I think crossfire comes pretty highly recommended in the tactical world but again you are giving up some thing in terms of load hauling in exchange for the headroom. The mystery ranch nice frame and other alice/molle pack adjacent frames are probably short too.

 

[shedhunt]

Most tactical backpacks have really short stubby frames. I think crossfire comes pretty highly recommended in the tactical world but again you are giving up some thing in terms of load hauling in exchange for the headroom. The mystery ranch nice frame and other alice/molle pack adjacent frames are probably short too.

Just checked out crossfire packs, thank you!

 

[Eastonsgrandpa]

I understand that I listed those brands. As stated in my first post, I've scoured the Internet and am not finding the type of pack frame I'm wanting, which is why I listed those brands. They all have what I'm looking for in a frame.

Looking for a frame with molle webbing, good hip belt and lumbar pad, with multiple molle webbing anchor spots through out to attach to. Not looking for padded shoulder straps or very lightly padded. This would give me something to work off of for what I'm wanting to utilize it for.

The shapecharge by Kifaru isn’t a frame pack, but it’s a rigid system with a belt and molle attachments. Very comfortable. My favorite “day” pack they make. I can’t think of any “frame” packs that would fit the criteria.

If I had an animal down and only had my shapecharge, I would think it would do a decent job up to about 50 pounds. Not great, but much better than my first pack that almost killed me on an elk pack out.

 

[nodakian]

Western Edge Gear may have what you are looking for. We have 18" and 20" frames.

 

[Macintosh]

Western Edge Gear may have what you are looking for. We have 18" and 20" frames.

Is that the back length or stay length? The packs the op mentioned are for 18-21”ish back lengths, with the difference to 25-26” being the stays protruding above the shoulders for load lifter straps, etc.

 

[shedhunt]

Is that the back length or stay length? The packs the op mentioned are for 18-21”ish back lengths, with the difference to 25-26” being the stays protruding above the shoulders for load lifter straps, etc.

18-21ish back lengths would be great! As far as load lifters go, I don't think I'd need them for the setup.

 

[Macintosh]

18-21ish back lengths would be great! As far as load lifters go, I don't think I'd need them for the setup.

Thats what Im saying—the exo, etc packs with stays protruding above your shoulders ARE 18-21” back length. Stay length is not the same as back length. Back length is usually measured from your ilaic crest to your c7 vertebra, and 18-21” is a typical adult back length. On a big weight carrying pack the stays that fit for a 20” back length will be 25-26” long. Thats why I asked the clarifying question.

 

[shedhunt]

Western Edge Gear may have what you are looking for. We have 18" and 20" frames.

I checked out your website and it looks like what you have will probably work, I'll reach out to you to chat.

 

[shedhunt]

Thats what Im saying—the exo, etc packs with stays protruding above your shoulders ARE 18-21” back length. Stay length is not the same as back length. Back length is usually measured from your ilaic crest to your c7 vertebra, and 18-21” is a typical adult back length. On a big weight carrying pack the stays that fit for a 20” back length will be 25-26” long. Thats why I asked the clarifying question.

Well, I couldn't think of what the load lifters or stays were called originally. So my bad for not being as clear for everyone. So yes, I don't want stays or load lifters protruding way up like they do on my other packs that are built for heavy hauling. This thing may see 10-15 lbs max and I'd think that would be a heavy load for it.