Any reason to not go short on barrel length?

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I'm relatively new to long range shooting and rifle hunting. I currently have a 6.5 Creedmoor Howa in an MDT chassis that I've been using for fun range shooting and whitetail hunting in the eastern US. I have a safe full of other guns, but the Howa is the closest I have to a serious bolt rifle.

I'd like to get a second nice bolt gun and have it focused specifically on mobile hunting, specifically whitetail inside of 400 yards, and ideally as light/small as possible to facilitate longer hikes in, climbing into a tree, going through brush, etc. The Howa has a 24" barrel and weighs almost 17 pounds, so it's seriously inconvenient for anything aside from shooting long range when you have a nice setup at ground level at the end of a short walk. I'd never lug it through brush or haul it up a tree.

I'd like to stick with 6.5 Creedmoor so I only need one ammo supply. I'd also like a plastic stock and stainless or carbon barrel to keep it weatherproof. I'm in NY, so this will be used without a suppressor.

I've narrowed my search to the Springfield 2020 Redline, and I've been on the verge of picking one up a couple times over the last few weeks, but I'm conflicted on barrel length between the 16" or 20" options. I feel like the overriding theme is longer is almost always better, but in a use case like mine where weight/length/convenience is important, is there any reason to not go with the 16" barrel? It's only a few ounces less, but the shorter overall length is really appealing as well. I do see threads on here where people are shooting 6.5 Creedmoor out of short barrels but it also seems like a lot of those people are only choosing the short option because they're hanging a suppressor on it. I just want a rifle that's easy to carry.

TLDR: Is a 16" barrel OK for 6.5 Creedmoor as a mobile hunting gun for whitetail under 400 yards? Especially considering I already have another 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a longer/heavier barrel if I need it? Or should I play it safe and stick with the 20" barrel?

The voices in my head are sick of debating this, so I figured I'd ask here.
 
Long heavy contour barrel, heavy chassis, heavy buttstock, big heavy bipod, big scope with a sunshade, big thick sling, etc etc etc. It's a beast. Works great shooting prone or off a bench at the range, which is what I built it for before I decided I also wanted to hunt once archery season was over.
 
16" will work just fine.

I have come around to liking an 18" barrel on a bolt gun a bit more though. Thats kinda the sweet spot as far as how they handle IMO
 
The shorter barrel will still work fine as long as you’re not chasing a velocity number. Less velocity means more bullet drop down range, but if you’re keeping it inside 400yds it won’t be too bad. That being said I would stay around 18-20” .
 
Why? Personal preference, balance, performance, etc.?

A shorter barrel without a suppressor is going to have a lot of muzzle blast. I consider most short-barreled center fire rifles “extremely uncomfortable to shoot” without a suppressor.

I’d look really hard at the Sauer 100’s on sale. Very light and handy. The 22” barrel length is perfect for me for a woods rifle. Hard for me to justify any other rifle of that kind when these are on sale for that price at EuroOptic ($399).
 
The shorter barrel will still work fine as long as you’re not chasing a velocity number. Less velocity means more bullet drop down range, but if you’re keeping it inside 400yds it won’t be too bad. That being said I would stay around 18-20” .

The only number I'll likely be chasing with this gun will be one buck and two does per year, since that's the tags I'll have to fill. 400 yards is probably a stretch, the property I have easiest access to has an open meadow that's maybe 375 yards diagonally. So if I sat in one corner and a deer walked out in the opposite corner, I'd still need under 400 yards of range. Most other spots will be more like 100-200 yards max. Or significantly less if I'm in the woods. I don't mind compensating for bullet drop so that's not really an issue, I just need to be able to reliably hit a deer's boiler room at those ranges, with enough punch to kill.
 
16" will work fine but honestly if there's no option for a suppressor I don't feel hampered at all by 18" to 20" of barrel.

FWIW, here's a printout of what a 6.5cm with a 16" barrel can easily do with handloads with the 147eldm at my local altitude of 650' on a typical cooler hunting weather day.

I *personally* prefer to stay above 2000' impact velocity, but that is based on past experience with tougher bullets. The ELDM should be more than fine at 2000' or even lower.
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The only number I'll likely be chasing with this gun will be one buck and two does per year, since that's the tags I'll have to fill. 400 yards is probably a stretch, the property I have easiest access to has an open meadow that's maybe 375 yards diagonally. So if I sat in one corner and a deer walked out in the opposite corner, I'd still need under 400 yards of range. Most other spots will be more like 100-200 yards max. Or significantly less if I'm in the woods. I don't mind compensating for bullet drop so that's not really an issue, I just need to be able to reliably hit a deer's boiler room at those ranges, with enough punch to kill.

My 20” Tikka 6.5 CM starts out at 2559 FPS with Hornady factory 140-grain ELDMs. It stays above 1800 FPS to somewhere between 450 and 500 yards at sea level. Should be plenty of margin for reliable expansion at your maximum range.
 
A shorter barrel without a suppressor is going to have a lot of muzzle blast. I consider most short-barreled center fire rifles “extremely uncomfortable to shoot” without a suppressor.

I’d look really hard at the Sauer 100’s on sale. Very light and handy. The 22” barrel length is perfect for me for a woods rifle. Hard for me to justify any other rifle of that kind when these are on sale for that price at EuroOptic ($399).

I hadn't really thought about muzzle blast.

Looks like for a stainless or Cerakote Sauer 100 it's a couple hundred more, at which point I'd probably lean towards a Tikka with a stainless barrel for only a little more. But man, $399 for the blued version seems like a great deal.
 
I hadn't really thought about muzzle blast.

Looks like for a stainless or Cerakote Sauer 100 it's a couple hundred more, at which point I'd probably lean towards a Tikka with a stainless barrel for only a little more. But man, $399 for the blued version seems like a great deal.

Muzzle blast can be significant. We have an Iranian cavalry carbine in 8mm Mauser that is basically a concussion machine. And while I didn’t notice it much when I was on AD, I don’t like firing my 16” AR without a suppressor on it. It’s just unpleasant, especially in any kind of confined space (including under trees or near buildings).

The blued version isn’t going to rust away to nothingness as long as you wipe it down when you bring it inside and put a light coat of oil on it before you store it.

I think that’s the best deal going by far. If I didn’t already have a First World Problem (too many rifles), I’d be adding another one to my safe just to have it. But a man can go broke chasing bargains…
 
I have a 20" barreled 308 Winchester for the Pa hardwoods and it works very well. I do suppress it and it's just right. However, w/o the suppressor it isn't bad. If not using a suppressor I would stick with 20". As others have stated, a 16" unsuppressed rifle is very loud with lots of muzzle blast.
 
Why? Personal preference, balance, performance, etc.?
Muzzle blast, balance, 100+ FPS velocity loss on an already somewhat diminutive cartridge.

Not saying it would take a gun from awesome to awful by any means, the length advantages just aren't that appealing to me. But that is coming from someone who was primarily in 24-26" braked rifles for a while before going to primarily 18" suppressed rifles. I just dont see that large of an upside going shorter than 20" on bare muzzle.

If primarily tree stand hunting, i could see where having a stubby little thing would be nice though.
 
16" 6.5CM is plenty capable for 400yd and in, but if there is no chance of suppression in the future I'd absolutely just go 20". Especially if shooting factory ammo.

Heck, you could always cut/thread the 20" to 16" if suppression ever becomes an option.
 
man you'll be fine. dont worry about the i would never lose 200 fps guys. its irrelevant. the deadliest rifle i own is a 16" 308 lobbing 180gn partitions at 2270 fps. absolute carnage. 99% of everything ive killed hasnt taken more than three steps. granted, i wouldnt grab it to go shoot something 500 yds
 
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