doc holiday13
WKR
Chemical castration. Let them live there life but not able to reproduce.
Bruh.... FFX county VA does sterilization on deer ... Such as waste of $$. Plenty of people would love to eat horse
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Chemical castration. Let them live there life but not able to reproduce.
Well, my entire premise is hinged on managed... And sustainability.The single biggest danger on this entire issue, is permitting anyone to accept or promote the implicit assumption that the only good landscape is one untouched by human hands. That is what is at the heart of treating people like a disease, and environmentalism as religion with "gaia" as its deity. Don't ever accept these viewpoints, as they dehumanize people - and that is always the first step in forcible removal and elimination of people. Dehumanization.
If you want to see people forcibly removed, restricted, and eliminated from enjoying public lands, the first step is permitting our dehumanization by treating us as a disease.
To that end:
1) The issue isn't "not native", the issue is "invasive" - which is an issue of destroying habitat for native species. There is no problem with non-native.
2) Our goal is not pre-human "pristine", lands untouched by humanity - the goal is sustainable balance. That means human intervention, human use, and human recreation as fundamental requirements.
So you still have native trout in abundance?If there as a magic button to eliminate all horses and nonnative trout I’d press it. BUT, non-native is not the same as invasive.
Around here at least the nonnative trout are not invasive. They are triploid so can’t reproduce, and can’t even survive outside a narrow habitat like a tailwater or artificial lake. If the G&F wanted to get rid of them they’d be gone within a few months at most and if human management disappeared they’d be mostly gone in a few years.
On the other hand horses are reproducing out of control, eating every scrap of nutrition until they’re starving, but humans are intervening to prop them up with feed. And they directly harm native wildlife by running them off water sources. I don’t see any real comparison except maybe Asian carp
my point is the optics.
I think wolves and grizzlies have practically decimated the native trout in the west.So you still have native trout in abundance?
I mean, I'd rather catch native fish too, I see where they're coming from.I think wolves and grizzlies have practically decimated the native trout in the west.
Did we ever have native trout in abundance in Arizona? No. Either way, no honest horse supporter could point to put and take triploid rainbows in an artificial pond for the winter and the horses and say they’re equivalent.So you still have native trout in abundance?
Oh? Arizona...Did we ever have native trout in abundance in Arizona? No. Either way, no honest horse supporter could point to put and take triploid rainbows in an artificial pond for the winter and the horses and say they’re equivalent.