Another Long Range TV Show Misses Coues Deer By 3 Feet!!!

[wind gypsy]

Distance to the target (animal) is not the problem. People making mistakes and poor choices are the problem.

I generally agree. To me, shooting long distance for most hunters is similar to shooting at a running animal with zero experience doing it to know if one has more than a lucky chance at making a good shot. We focus on the longer range stuff more now because large #s of hunters shooting longer than MPBR and actually thinking there will be high odds outcomes is a new thing. While it falls under the "people making mistakes and poor choices" umbrella, it seems like distance being a large contributing variable to lousy shots is becoming a more frequent problem. Where as making shitty shots off hand, at a moving animal, forcing it through brush, or any other long list of reasons people make lousy shots at close range are probably static or less common than they have been in the past.

 

[Justin Crossley]

I generally agree. To me, shooting long distance for most hunters is similar to shooting at a running animal with zero experience doing it to know if one has more than a lucky chance at making a good shot. We focus on the longer range stuff more now because large #s of hunters shooting longer than MPBR and actually thinking there will be high odds outcomes is a new thing. While it falls under the "people making mistakes and poor choices" umbrella, it seems like distance being a large contributing variable to lousy shots is becoming a more frequent problem. Where as making shitty shots off hand, at a moving animal, forcing it through brush, or any other long list of reasons people make lousy shots at close range are probably static or less common than they have been in the past.

I hear what you're saying for sure. But what I have seen this week leads me to believe the morons are increasing out in the field.

Sadly, these idiots appear so used to missing that I haven't seen any of them even go looking for blood. They just hop back in their truck or SxS and take off down the road to look for another target. Maybe it's just worse in this particular area I'm hunting in at the moment. It is my first time here, so who knows.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Let’s use actual measured results: At the S2H classes, the students shoot exactly that. Not one person in over 100 has put ten rounds into the 1 MOA circle.

What's the criteria? I'd like to try it this winter as a personal challenge.

 

[wind gypsy]

What's the criteria? I'd like to try it this winter as a personal challenge.

Also curious. I know I’ve done it but it’s not the norm!

 

[Bubblehide]

A few years ago, after a surgery, I hunted this spot I usually park at and hike into 5 miles. I simply was not capable of the hike after the surgery, so I hunted the area I typically take at, along with many others. I was watching 2 bedded bucks (both spikes, spikes are illegal), they were about 100 yards apart. These 2 guys in a jeep pull up stop at my truck then continue about 70 yards further. They get out, look around, and they spook up 1 buck, he runs to the 2nd buck, and they both go up a slope, and take their time circle around and come back down to the flat. 1 of the 2 guys take a 120 yard shot. I yell they are both spikes, and illegal. About 5 seconds later, boom, the guy shoots again. Both his shots missed. From my years of hunting, I've found that the majority of hunters out in the field, simply don't shoot well.

For those that want to know, yes, I filled my tag that year, on a bedded buck on the slope those 2 spikes ran up. I passed 2 other legal bucks 3 times. Unfortunately, it just didn't feel like I was hunting, due to my physical limitations at the time. I've been hiking in from that particular spot for well over 30 years, maybe 40 or more. So I have their patterns down pretty well from where I park, to well beyond the 5 mile hike in, as I camped and hunted from there. I prefer to get away from the crowds, as I've seen way to much wild shooting. He'll just up the road, one year, I watched 5 guys empty their rifles on a buck about 800 yards away. And another group empty their rifles on a buck about 200 yards away. Both parties missed both bucks. This all happened when I got back to my truck after a successful pack in hunt. I wrapped a cold drink from the ice chest, and was refueling myself, just taking it all in before my drive home. In short, 2 things, 1). I hated hunting that spot and not being able to pack in. 2). Is a repeat, most hunters can't hit a deer size target. OK, 3). I don't watch hunting shows, I mean, if you're experienced, do you actually get anything out of watching them.