American Prairie loses grazing rights

[Sandhills]

Elk do the same thing with fences.

The water sources that have been put in on the range are definitely helpful to wild life.

The ranchers locally do a piss poor job on them public, good winter range gets grazed to dust in August/September every year. Then the whining commences about elk and deer, if you bring it up they’re doing gods work preventing fires. We have cows illegally in wilderness areas, and the fine for over grazing is 1.33 per additional AUM, not exactly a deterrent.

I hunt some private ranches in nm, their range management is amazing and seeing how good ranchers treat their own dirt is fascinating to me. I know a lot of great ranchers including one of my best friends, it’s not all bad apples, just a few that fuk it up and it’s mostly the entitled lease guys that I end up having bad interactions with.

I carry a chain in my truck that I use to rip out illegal locked gates on public a couple times a year.


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Back where I grew up we had one of the original wilderness areas from the 1965 act. It had a grazing allotment because the rancher that had the allotment before it became a wilderness area was grandfathered in I suppose. It had some of the prettiest meadows, creeks and lakes a guy could ever see. But it also had some huge thick conifer stands. Its almost of it burned in the Dixie Fire back in 2021.

 

[KurtR]

Ranches dont raise buffalo in north america.

Where do you live all the people around here including the Cheyenne River Sioux and Standing Rock tribe all call them buffalo and bison interchangeably every one knows what they mean. Maybe the south africans that work here get confused and think there are cape buffalo i guess.

 

[PLhunter]

The average American, and I'll bet Canadian too, calls bison buffalo. Hell all the Indians I know call em buffalo.

I'll be sure to call them bison from now on so I don't confuse you.

Yeah this is unnecessary semantics. The context alone is enough to know what you’re talking about. I’m a biology a zoology nut and the older I get the more it bugs me when people get caught up on nomenclature vs common names.

As to the food value I think there are enough people like me who love bison, especially wild ones, to allow at least a fraction of a percent of our public land to have them.

 

[PLhunter]

I've been trying to track a cohesive narrative in the anti-APR position and the best I can come up with is "It's new and different and I hate it"

I guess I understand that sentiment. I’m just stuck a bit further in the past when it comes to “ it’s new and different and hate it”

Cattle, fences, development, and industrialized agriculture. All new, the bison, wild sheep, and prairie chickens and connected wild habitat to roam is old.

That’s the old school shit you think a hunter would be dreaming of.