Am I over thinking this?

kooch

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I moved from MN to SD a few years ago and boy am I happy about it! I'm lucky that I've got family connections on my wife's side here so we fell right into life. I've been able to hunt West River a some since we've lived here and that sure is different and fun.

For my entire rifle hunting life I've basically used a single rifle, a Model 70 (South Carolina built) .270 win featherweight with a 3-9 variable Leupold and I've been perfectly happy with it. Since shooting distance can be so much more than I'm accustomed to out here I've put more time in at the range from the bench, prone and seated with sticks. I do OK at 300, which is as far as the range allows. If I do my part, my rifle will shoot 1.5 - 2.0 MOA from the three positions pretty regularly, worse with a whole host of other factory ammunition. It's not great, but it's gotten the job done to 300-ish on whitetail. Most of my shots back in my MN days were much, much shorter than that though. I shoot 130 grain Remington accu-tip which is no longer made but I've got plenty. I shoot a lot better with a little suppressed Ruger Ranch rifle in 5.56 with Barnes TSX ammunition and I've used that for deer up close. Mostly though, that rifle is my farm gun and sighted in with some federal .223VMAX. Works great, does what I need it to do. I don't currently reload.

Anyway, a year ago I had a shoulder injury that required surgery and shooting the .270 isn't much fun anymore. The rifle does have a limbsaver pad and I've been wearing a PAST shoulder pad. don't anticipate the shoulder improving much as I age. After As I type this today, my shoulder is still smarting from less than 20 rounds the day before yesterday. So, I've decided to consider a new hunting rifle for next year. I'm pretty much a one rifle guy, and the 270 worked fine for years. But between the shoulder issues, and hoping to stretch out my shooting abilities a bit I've got the itch.

I'm thinking about a Tikka Roughtec rifle. If they were already chambered in 6mm Creedmoor I'm guessing I wouldn't be torn. But they don't yet, and I am. Right now I'm considering a few options. I know any of these rifles are likely to shoot better than my .270 and certainly better than I can.

1. Just get the darn rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor and get on with life. I haven't shot this cartridge or this rifle and wonder how much less felt recoil to expect compared to my current rifle. A suppressor or brake would probably help.

2. Just get the darn rifle in .243 win and get on with life, find a 90ish grain load it likes and go shoot and hunt.

3. Just get any darn Tikka rifle that tickles my fancy and have a Smith replace the barrel with a pre-fit 6mm Creedmoor.

I don't see myself shooting deer beyond 300 or antelope beyond 400 since I always seem to get closer than that anyway. I'm looking for experienced opinions. I don't think I'll ever hunt Elk again in my life, just deer and antelope.

Kooch
 
243 will kick less than 6.5 which is only a step down from plane jane 130 270.

I just dropped from 3006 to 243. No recoil i can talk about. 6 cm will be about same.

You gotta be happy w your choice. What do you want?
 
No need to overthink it. Get a rifle in a short action round - .243, 6mm CM, 6.5 CM, etc. - and put a suppressor on it. I also have a reconstructed shoulder and I find my 10# suppressed Tikka 6.5 CM or my 10# Mauser .270 a joy to shoot suppressed. That is 10# for rifle, optic, suppressor, sling, and anything else you care to put on it.

If I was starting over from scratch, I would be using a 1:8” twist .243 instead of a 6.5 CM. I could be shooting 95-grain ballistic tips or 108-grain ELDMs without a care in the world.
 
If legal where you hunt:

If not:
Tikka 6CM 1:7 20” in a Rokstok with an Unknown Supressors can, UM rings, SWFA 3-9 mil/mil milquad reticle to shoot 95TMK/83ELDX/88ELDM/112MB.

Marbles suggestion above is also a good one (make sure it’s a 1:8). Assemble the same as I listed above. Shoot the Winchester 95gr ballistic tips or any of the other bullets I listed above.
 
Thanks fellas. I appreciate the replies and input. Getting old kinda sucks. I was hesitant to join and post but ya'll are friendly. Thanks for the help. 20" .243 it is. I'll have to look into the Rokstok. I've read about it some here already.
 
I would just get the 1-8 twist 243. I would also put a suppressor on it. No reason not to.

Then, as others have stated, once it is shot out, rebarrel to a 6 Creed.

As for changing the stock out, that is a personal preference thing. If you have the money, go for it. If not, spend $60 and put a limbsaver and a vertical grip on it and shoot the heck out of it.
 
Thanks fellas. I appreciate the replies and input. Getting old kinda sucks. I was hesitant to join and post but ya'll are friendly. Thanks for the help. 20" .243 it is. I'll have to look into the Rokstok. I've read about it some here already.
I really like 6.5cm, but in your shoes, I'd suggest a .243

A suppressor does make a big difference.
 
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor and am super delighted with that cartridge, which has a huge factory ammo selection if you are not a reloader. That means you're very likely to find a round that will be accurate in virtually any Tikka. I have a 3-port muzzle break on the rifle and can spot impacts from any position. I can't comment on the 6 Creedmoor but know that Steve Speck and the Exo Mountain crew swear by the cartridge. The 6.5 Creedmoor also carries decent energy to the ranges you mentioned and has excellent barrel life. Good luck with your decision.
 
Thanks fellas. I appreciate the replies and input. Getting old kinda sucks. I was hesitant to join and post but ya'll are friendly. Thanks for the help. 20" .243 it is. I'll have to look into the Rokstok. I've read about it some here already.
I like my two Rokstoks quite a bit. But, the Tikka factor stock works fine, especially with the more vertical grip added.

UM or Sportsmatch rings are great for using the native rail on the Tikka and if no desire to move scopes around are what I would go with to save money. Personally, I bond a picc rail with recoil lug (Area419 or SRS) to mine and use NF UL 4 hole rings and prefer it to the other options.

I also like an Arctic trigger guard (Lumley makes a DBM with one) and the UM bolt handle and a Sako S20 trigger.

I like the SWFA 3-9x42, but I like the Maven RS1.2 quite a bit better.

None of that is needed, and the rifle starts getting expensive.

The most budget friendly option is Sportsmatch rings and SWFA with vertical grip.




Looks like the Sportsmatch rings have gone up in price a decent bit. Which makes the argument for UM rings stronger.

 
Thanks fellas. I appreciate the replies and input. Getting old kinda sucks. I was hesitant to join and post but ya'll are friendly. Thanks for the help. 20" .243 it is. I'll have to look into the Rokstok. I've read about it some here already.

Depending on your perspective of death and the afterlife, the alternative to getting old appears grim from our current position.
 
Thanks again guys. I'm going to hunt with the .270 this Fall and get going on this rifle after I unload a few safe queens to make space and raise some funds!

If it all works out I'll pick up a twin rifle for the Mrs once the new rifle is sorted, probably in a different color so we can tell them apart.
 
Thanks again guys. I'm going to hunt with the .270 this Fall and get going on this rifle after I unload a few safe queens to make space and raise some funds!

If it all works out I'll pick up a twin rifle for the Mrs once the new rifle is sorted, probably in a different color so we can tell them apart.

If it’s s legal I would use your 223.
 
Fair advice. I've read that entire thread previously and I just can't go there yet for longer shots. I have killed whitetail does at 150 with it. The scope (VX-3HD 1.5-5X20) and suppressor (omega 300) cost way more than the rifle! It does shoot well with the 62 grain TSX.
 
I moved from MN to SD a few years ago and boy am I happy about it! I'm lucky that I've got family connections on my wife's side here so we fell right into life. I've been able to hunt West River a some since we've lived here and that sure is different and fun.

For my entire rifle hunting life I've basically used a single rifle, a Model 70 (South Carolina built) .270 win featherweight with a 3-9 variable Leupold and I've been perfectly happy with it. Since shooting distance can be so much more than I'm accustomed to out here I've put more time in at the range from the bench, prone and seated with sticks. I do OK at 300, which is as far as the range allows. If I do my part, my rifle will shoot 1.5 - 2.0 MOA from the three positions pretty regularly, worse with a whole host of other factory ammunition. It's not great, but it's gotten the job done to 300-ish on whitetail. Most of my shots back in my MN days were much, much shorter than that though. I shoot 130 grain Remington accu-tip which is no longer made but I've got plenty. I shoot a lot better with a little suppressed Ruger Ranch rifle in 5.56 with Barnes TSX ammunition and I've used that for deer up close. Mostly though, that rifle is my farm gun and sighted in with some federal .223VMAX. Works great, does what I need it to do. I don't currently reload.

Anyway, a year ago I had a shoulder injury that required surgery and shooting the .270 isn't much fun anymore. The rifle does have a limbsaver pad and I've been wearing a PAST shoulder pad. don't anticipate the shoulder improving much as I age. After As I type this today, my shoulder is still smarting from less than 20 rounds the day before yesterday. So, I've decided to consider a new hunting rifle for next year. I'm pretty much a one rifle guy, and the 270 worked fine for years. But between the shoulder issues, and hoping to stretch out my shooting abilities a bit I've got the itch.

I'm thinking about a Tikka Roughtec rifle. If they were already chambered in 6mm Creedmoor I'm guessing I wouldn't be torn. But they don't yet, and I am. Right now I'm considering a few options. I know any of these rifles are likely to shoot better than my .270 and certainly better than I can.

1. Just get the darn rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor and get on with life. I haven't shot this cartridge or this rifle and wonder how much less felt recoil to expect compared to my current rifle. A suppressor or brake would probably help.

2. Just get the darn rifle in .243 win and get on with life, find a 90ish grain load it likes and go shoot and hunt.

3. Just get any darn Tikka rifle that tickles my fancy and have a Smith replace the barrel with a pre-fit 6mm Creedmoor.

I don't see myself shooting deer beyond 300 or antelope beyond 400 since I always seem to get closer than that anyway. I'm looking for experienced opinions. I don't think I'll ever hunt Elk again in my life, just deer and antelope.

Kooch


Given you just signed up for an account today, the more you dig into the threads here (especially the one posted above by @PNWGATOR ), the more you'll see consistent, high-volume evidence of a handful of things that just go against common accepted wisdom, so be ready for that and do keep an open mind.

If you're looking for light-recoiling, small, handy, etc, another cartridge to consider would be 6mm ARC or .22 ARC, along with the .223s mentioned. Any of those will be more enjoyable to shoot than the Creedmoors or cartridges coming from a .308 Win parent case, and it will take anything in North America. And prices are pretty good - not as cheap as .223, but cheap enough to shoot high-volume.
 
Thanks again guys. I'm going to hunt with the .270 this Fall and get going on this rifle after I unload a few safe queens to make space and raise some funds!

If it all works out I'll pick up a twin rifle for the Mrs once the new rifle is sorted, probably in a different color so we can tell them apart.
Assuming you don't reload, you can get 270 ammo. reduced recoil, with a Barnes110 triple shock @ 2960 fps- which will generate nearly the same recoil as a 243 with a bullet in that weight class.

But if you are buying a new rifle, the 223 is absolutely perfect, for what you want to do.

 
Get an AR style semi auto rifle in 6.5 Creedmore. The semi auto will absorb some of that recoil and if you get a quality rifle it will be just as accurate as a bolt gun. Plus there is an almost unlimited number of aftermarket buttstock and grip options so that you can get something that fits you to a T.
 
Love my Tikka 6.5 CM, and suppressed it's a dream to shoot, but I have another option for you. Since you stated you shoot your Ruger well, Ruger makes the Ranch G2 in 6mm ARC and I suspect you'd love it. Very little recoil and shoots great.
Edit: they also make it in 6mm Creedmoor which you expressed interest in originally. I like the ARC better personally though.
 
I'll have to look at this cartridge some more. The Fudd in me is skeptical of the 22s, despite the proof on that thread and what I've seen them do to a man. Old ways and "what dad taught me" are tough to overcome.
 
Way over thinking it from my standpoint - but, I'm a hunter, not a shooting aficionado. I take my rifle to the range before season and shoot it a few times to make sure nothing has change, tweak if needed. I've had my shoulder overhauled twice and it has its issues, but it can tolerate 1 or 2 shots at a deer. If I were a range rat, shooting through tons of ammo and burning through barrels, I would probably be in your shoes looking for something to replace my .270.
 
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