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Why does it have to be either/or?
Why not have both .308s and creeds of all types
Why not have both .308s and creeds of all types
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Personally I admire women of all sizes as well as cartridges of all sizes.Why does it have to be either/or?
Why not have both .308s and creeds of all types![]()
There are many posts here discussing and displaying why we like the .308. Maybe go back to the beginning and start reading…with that open mind you have.I want to know why people love the 308 so much. I had one and it didn't live up to my expectations. I'm trying to understand what I missed. Not derailing anything.
Simply called you out as a person who was using exaggerated numbers to bolster their point. You no longer deny that. And your amended position of 1/2, better, shorter checks out. Glad we got that sorted.Oh boy, good job, you got me. So it's only 1/2 the recoil for better ballistics from a shorter barrel. Owned!
That is true but that half inch of action length, so pesky.At the risk of reigniting the dumpster fire: Can do everything better? Incorrect, the 30-06 can't fit in an 84M action. Have had a couple of 84Ls in 30-06, but they're just not the rifle the 84M is and went down the road.
Man that thing is flat. Guess that's what 3k fps will do. What did the wounds look like?Let's get this thread back on track.
This is a 130ttsx recovered from a whitetail buck that a friend of mine shot with my 308. MV is 3100ish and shot was sub 80 yards. Surprised that I found the bullet. Small sample size but ive been happy with this bullet so far.
Not to derail but would you please add this to :Let's get this thread back on track.
This is a 130ttsx recovered from a whitetail buck that a friend of mine shot with my 308. MV is 3100ish and shot was sub 80 yards. Surprised that I found the bullet. Small sample size but ive been happy with this bullet so far.
Let's get this thread back on track.
This is a 130ttsx recovered from a whitetail buck that a friend of mine shot with my 308. MV is 3100ish and shot was sub 80 yards. Surprised that I found the bullet. Small sample size but ive been happy with this bullet so far.
Buck was broadside and slightly downhill of the shooter. I didnt get any photos of the shoulder where the bullet entered.What was the angle of the buck and shot?
So I got to thinking about this series of test and thought that I should not be getting heavy bolt lift with the charges I tried. I wondered if the bolt handle timing was off on the Solus and was not getting the primary extraction I should from it. So, I called Jon Beanland and talked to him about it. Told him the bolt would open easily part way then take quite a bit of effort to open the rest of the way, but no other obvious pressure signs. Primers were good and no ejector swipes. Jon asked me if I was using new brass and the light came on. I had had this happen once before when firing resized brass from another chamber in a new chamber. Sometimes a standard sizing die won’t squeeze down brass fired in another chamber far enough on the case walls to provide enough clearance for proper expansion, resulting in sticky extraction. I immediately went to the garage and resized three rounds with my small base body die, took them out back and fired them into the ground for a function check. Eureka! No sticky extraction. Now that I have sized that brass with a small base die and fired it in the new chamber, sizing with a standard die will be sufficient. Lesson learned…. Again…The 43 and 43.3gr charges were still too hot, producing sticky bolt lift. The 43gr group wasn’t too bad at .999”, and with the 43.3gr charge, eight of the ten went into .538”, but two “flyers” opened the group to 1.423”. Had 15 rounds of prepped brass left in that box, so loaded up five rounds of 42.4gr and 10 rounds of 42.7gr. I wasn’t impressed with how the 174s were grouping thus far, so also loaded up some 168gr Tipped Matchkings, which my hunting rifle really likes, and for a 168, has a really good BC with a .535 G1. For the TMKs, I was more cautious and loaded up ten charges, .2gr between charges, starting with 42.7gr and ending with 44.5gr, the charge my hunting rifle likes. These were just to find max, to give me something to work around. Before this range session, I wasn’t happy with how I mounted the scope due to reticle cant, so remounted it, this time to my satisfaction. This range session, I started with the TMKs, using the first charge as a sighter then made all the adjustment my zero stop would allow before grouping the next nine. The next nine of 9 different charges went into .495”, though by 43.7gr, bolt lift was getting sticky again. I then fired the ELD-VTs. These grouped better than heavier charges, but nowhere near as good as the TMKs did. This rifle definitely prefers the 168gr Tipped Matchking over the 174gr ELD-VT and once I finish up with this box of 174s, I’ll not be pursuing them further.
John
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So for someone who no longer has a 308 in his arsenal, and is looking to add it once again - should I opt for the TMKs or the AMAX? It seems every tikka loves the amax and they seem plentiful to find. But I love what TMKs do to game.
I’d try a box of each and let your rifle tell you which one to use. That being said, the TMKs have a significantly higher BC and they shoot VERY well for me.So for someone who no longer has a 308 in his arsenal, and is looking to add it once again - should I opt for the TMKs or the AMAX? It seems every tikka loves the amax and they seem plentiful to find. But I love what TMKs do to game.
Is this the 16” or 20” version?View attachment 963686
Form 4 got approved this week. My first can and it’s an absolute dream to shoot. Spotting impacts better than with my bare muzzle 13.5lb 6.5CM… Should have done it sooner, but glad I finally made the leap. Sitting at 7.7lbs now. I’m hoping it will stay under 8lbs with a gen 2 SWFA 6x and UM rings. Looking at ~2730fps with 150gr bullets and Varget. I might try to hit 2750, but I don’t really need to for my at home hunting distances. Mirage was pretty bad from 5+ round strings so I ordered an LS wild suppressor cover.
