All things .308 Win

[Formidilosus]

Good looking rifles @Formidilosus ! Thank you for indulging me (us).


I should have guessed you would suggest some combination of Tikka T3x Lite/ MRC Marshall and SWFA/ Maven, etc. I think I got my wires crossed about setup for a bombproof 308 from Post #1,738 from "The Shoot2Hunt Podcast" thread when you were suggesting a heavier 12-13 pounds as an optimal overall weight. What I didn't pickup on was that your recommendation was based on a member asking about setup for an unsuppresed/unbraked 308.

I was wondering how you would get to that heavier weight, given your normal suggestions, since my T3x/SWFA/Rokstok/suppressor comes in under 10 pounds. I was thinking I would have to go with a heavier barrel and stock combination like a T3x CTR and KRG Bravo for my do-all 308. But I would personally hate to carry a 12-13 pound rifle all day, and prefer your above suggestions for any rifle I plan to carry very far. Fortunately, I live in a state that allows my suppressors!

Oh yeah. The heavier rifles are for if unsuppressed. I prefer a 8.5-10lb setup for my uses with a 308.

 

[vonb]

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The current and hopefully "bombproof" setup I will be experimenting with is a Mauser M12 Impact in 308 Win. with a 20" barrel. I have a Trijicon Credo 3-9x40mm scope mounted via EGW rings and Burris 2-piece picatinny bases. It's crowned with an AB A-10 7.62 suppressor. The whole package comes in around 8lbs 15oz.

@Formidilosus ...do you have any experience with the Mauser M12?

45.6 gr Varget, Nosler 165 BT, Win Brass and a CCI 200 will shoot one hole groups. I have the same gun and it shoots with any custom.

 

[Lonewolf72]

45.6 gr Varget, Nosler 165 BT, Win Brass and a CCI 200 will shoot one hole groups. I have the same gun and it shoots with any custom.

Thank you for that...I'll "give it a shot"!

My brother also has an M12. His rifle stacks them in there with cheap Norma Whitetail (150gr). Unfortunately, I had some difficulties when I had my rifle out. Nothing was grouping for me. I need to take it apart, make sure the stock and barrel aren't touching, the lug is seating properly and everything is torqued together properly. I don't think it was the scope and I'm comfortable with my mounting process. But if I still have problems, I will be switching to one of my SWFAs before another trip to the range.

 

[Motown]

My kid bought a new Tikka laminate stainless threaded 308 last week and wanted to try the new Burris Fullfield illuminated 2.5-10. Mounted it up tonight in some Hawkins Featherweights and it only sits at 7 1/2 pounds. Should be a sweet setup.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Oh yeah. The heavier rifles are for if unsuppressed. I prefer a 8.5-10lb setup for my uses with a 308.

As it seems that your skill set, knowledge and training allows you to use sub 10-pound setups in 308 Win out to it's effective range and beyond, do you ever feel the need to use a heavier rifle chambered in 308 Win?

I'm kind of a "light is right" guy and prefer to keep my setups under 10 pounds. But I've found myself cycling through Tikka CTRs and a Varmint, then eyeballing something like a Sako TRG . I can't help but think that there is no practical "need" for a heavier rifle in most circumstances. I suppose it's just a "want" for me with no pragmatic application unless I was competing, trying to split hairs on a range or sitting in a static position likely doing something I wouldn't be doing in civilian status.

 

[vonb]

Thank you for that...I'll "give it a shot"!

My brother also has an M12. His rifle stacks them in there with cheap Norma Whitetail (150gr). Unfortunately, I had some difficulties when I had my rifle out. Nothing was grouping for me. I need to take it apart, make sure the stock and barrel aren't touching, the lug is seating properly and everything is torqued together properly. I don't think it was the scope and I'm comfortable with my mounting process. But if I still have problems, I will be switching to one of my SWFAs before another trip to the range.

Mine would not group when I got it. 4" groups @ 100 yards. I reached out to Mauser (Blaser Group) and they told me the torque specs for the stock is 53 in-lbs. Once I torqued the two stock screws, it all came together.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Mine would not group when I got it. 4" groups @ 100 yards. I reached out to Mauser (Blaser Group) and they told me the torque specs for the stock is 53 in-lbs. Once I torqued the two stock screws, it all came together.

Excellent information...I will try torquing it properly 1st.

 

[Formidilosus]

As it seems that your skill set, knowledge and training allows you to use sub 10-pound setups in 308 Win out to it's effective range and beyond, do you ever feel the need to use a heavier rifle chambered in 308 Win?

I'm kind of a "light is right" guy and prefer to keep my setups under 10 pounds. But I've found myself cycling through Tikka CTRs and a Varmint, then eyeballing something like a Sako TRG . I can't help but think that there is no practical "need" for a heavier rifle in most circumstances. I suppose it's just a "want" for me with no pragmatic application unless I was competing, trying to split hairs on a range or sitting in a static position likely doing something I wouldn't be doing in civilian status.

Nah. TRG’s suck…..

 

[Formidilosus]

As it seems that your skill set, knowledge and training allows you to use sub 10-pound setups in 308 Win out to it's effective range and beyond, do you ever feel the need to use a heavier rifle chambered in 308 Win?

I'm kind of a "light is right" guy and prefer to keep my setups under 10 pounds. But I've found myself cycling through Tikka CTRs and a Varmint, then eyeballing something like a Sako TRG . I can't help but think that there is no practical "need" for a heavier rifle in most circumstances. I suppose it's just a "want" for me with no pragmatic application unless I was competing, trying to split hairs on a range or sitting in a static position likely doing something I wouldn't be doing in civilian status.

Yes. If the weight is manageable for the task, heavier for the most part is better.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Nah. TRG’s suck…..






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You're not helping me!

I'm trying to justify to myself why I shouldn't slap a heavy beast on an empty Bravo I have in the basement.

 

[Formidilosus]

You're not helping me!

I'm trying to justify to myself why I shouldn't slap a heavy beast on an empty Bravo I have in the basement.

You don’t want that.


You want a T3 Sporter.

 

[Lonewolf72]

You don’t want that.


You want a T3 Sporter.

Now that's fighting dirty...you know how hard those are to get! I know firsthand what these are like. A buddy of mine has two 595 Master Sporters. When asked, he muttered something along the the lines of "I'll never sell them" (to you).