Alaska hunts

[sniper61]

It is a tough one, we are here to share and learn. Are we restricting that because there are more and more hunters or more ways to research or maybe more personal motives. Idk i have to question , why is it OK to not allow free speech . I don't like the thought of it is because we are being selfish.

 

[chimaygr]

It seems like people are starting to wise up to the fact that they are ruining their own favorite "secret spots" by simply posting about them. It's too bad that "rules" are necessary, but when "education" fails, I suppose that's the best alternative?

 

[Bachto]

It is a tough one, we are here to share and learn. Are we restricting that because there are more and more hunters or more ways to research or maybe more personal motives. Idk i have to question , why is it OK to not allow free speech . I don't like the thought of it is because we are being selfish.

Because free speech refers to governments and not a private forum who can make whatever rules they want.

 

[chimaygr]

And I didn't mention that the guy posting about his favorite (formerly) "secret" spot didn't just potentially ruin that spot for himself but any other hunters who used to enjoy the solitude of that unknown spot that is now overrun because of a posting here.

 

[WRO]

And I didn't mention that the guy posting about his favorite (formerly) "secret" spot didn't just potentially ruin that spot for himself but any other hunters who used to enjoy the solitude of that unknown spot that is now overrun because of a posting here.

We had a killer caribou spot north of dillingham when I was a kid, we always flew out of dillingham there and it was relatively uncrowded, then we took a different transporter in out of soldotna who rat fuked us and flew the whole world in there.


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[atdp]

Agreed!!!

 

[Twisdom]

Agree

 

[Hatchet]

Alaska is huge. Banning general areas that relate to a hunt sounds ridiculous. It would be like banning info on the Wasatch in UT or a question on the Big Horns in WY.

It’s smaller than people think hunting wise (and getting smaller every year)

 

[kwackkillncrew]

It’s smaller than people think hunting wise (and getting smaller every year)

and for a majority of people, its a 1 and done type of situation. so when they are finished they let everyone know how it was. Then the next 1 and done person starts planning sees the last persons post and then they finish their hunt and do the same thing, its a vicious cycle that can turn accessible hunts into a gong show. It would be intersting to see in the last 15 years how much pressure has gone up from non res compared to res on the oil road hunt.

 

[Meanderthal]

I don't want to encourage more ruin but I also don't see the harm in discussing some of the draw hunts with crazy low odds. I would share basic information with someone lucky enough to hunt sheep in my back yard because they only issue 6 tags per year and there's rarely more than one kill. Whole different situation with OTC huntable spots.

 

[Geewhiz]

I'm hoping that Uhaul and Turo prohibiting haul road travel helps the caribou numbers.

 

[FranklinBluth]

and for a majority of people, its a 1 and done type of situation. so when they are finished they let everyone know how it was. Then the next 1 and done person starts planning sees the last persons post and then they finish their hunt and do the same thing, its a vicious cycle that can turn accessible hunts into a gong show. It would be intersting to see in the last 15 years how much pressure has gone up from non res compared to res on the oil road hunt.

Just since 2018, here's the numbers for the oil road hunt:

Highway hunters 2018: 311. 2024: 1253
Airboat hunters: 2018: 33. 2024: 253
Boat: 2018: 65. 2024: 335

Each method of transport is actually pretty steady as a proportion of overall hunters, but overall hunter numbers across the board are up in every category. Total hunters in that unit (all types of transportation) was 527 in 2018. In 2024 it was 2,221. Road hunters make up 55-60% of all hunters in that unit every year it seems like.

Anyone want to take bets on what the 2025 numbers will look like when the state drops them in July?

 

[william schmaltz]

There have officially been proposals submitted to put all nonresidents on a draw in Rokslide’s favorite moose hunting unit. They’ve also submitted proposals creating a conservation corridor along all the rivers for local moose harvest only. After what happened in the Federal Subsistence Board meetings last week in GMU25 and 13, if the locals don’t get their way from the BOG next spring, they will just go that route. I’d put it at 90% odds that nonresidents will not be able to hunt moose on the lower Yukon and its tribs in 2027. 50% that non local residents will also be kicked out.

 

[Smtn10pt]

and for a majority of people, its a 1 and done type of situation. so when they are finished they let everyontte know how it was. Then the next 1 and done person starts planning sees the last persons post and then they finish their hunt and do the same thing, its a vicious cycle that can turn accessible hunts into a gong show. It would be intersting to see in the last 15 years how much pressure has gone up from non res compared to res on the oil road hunt.

exactly right! Look at all the threads heres what I learned on my one trip to wherever

 

[Glory]

Everything even remotely specific posted on a hunting forum just feeds ai nowadays. Just try it and you will be amazed.

Alaska needs more protection than ever with its ever dwindling game populations.

 

[Glory]

It’s smaller than people think hunting wise (and getting smaller every year)

No kidding. Seem like people see Alaska as an unlimited resource after their state gets screwed up

 

[wyosam]

No kidding. Seem like people see Alaska as an unlimited resource after there state gets screwed up

Or even for states that aren’t screwed up. When I moved up from Wyoming, I wasn’t delusional enough to expect Alaska hunting to be like an amazing once in a lifetime fly out hunt every year, but I was not expecting it to be as complex/expensive to fill the freezer as it is. I went from pretty easily killing 2-3 elk a year without spending really any money (lived in the middle of great elk country), to expensive logistics and tough hunting. Nelchina closed and 40-mile got really tight shortly after I moved here. Now to hunt caribou it’s 30 hours in the truck to go bow hunt the haul road or commit to the big hike. Or fly to Adak or something. Both pretty comparable to crossing half the lower 48 to hunt. Southcentral black bears are a pretty decent option without big travel. Moose are always an option, but it’s a pretty small state when you need to stay within a mile max of transport other than foot. Had some moose plans for this fall, but with the price of gas I don’t know that it will be worth the truck/boat fuel required to make it happen.


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[Marbles]

Or even for states that aren’t screwed up. When I moved up from Wyoming, I wasn’t delusional enough to expect Alaska hunting to be like an amazing once in a lifetime fly out hunt every year, but I was not expecting it to be as complex/expensive to fill the freezer as it is. I went from pretty easily killing 2-3 elk a year without spending really any money (lived in the middle of great elk country), to expensive logistics and tough hunting. Nelchina closed and 40-mile got really tight shortly after I moved here. Now to hunt caribou it’s 30 hours in the truck to go bow hunt the haul road or commit to the big hike. Or fly to Adak or something. Both pretty comparable to crossing half the lower 48 to hunt. Southcentral black bears are a pretty decent option without big travel. Moose are always an option, but it’s a pretty small state when you need to stay within a mile max of transport other than foot. Had some moose plans for this fall, but with the price of gas I don’t know that it will be worth the truck/boat fuel required to make it happen.


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It is also interesting how people don't grasp density. Moose might be 1 animal per 20 square miles. Bears might be 1 animal per 40 square miles. They will concentrate on resources in an area, but there certainly are not as many animals as people make it sound like.