Air Lock Industries Suppressor

[Jake Larsen]

I think the real question is how far out are you comfortable having back orders? You are already selling product that isn't manufactured, do you really want a 2 year back order?

Would you take payment at time of order or at time of shipment? If at time of order you will get people complaining about giving you an interest free loan and being really unhappy if something causes a delay. If at time of manufacturing you will have issues with expiring payment methods, Etc.

Both methods can work, but I think you are less likely to get over extended sticking with your current method.

Personally I'm more inclined to order something with a drop than with a long back order window.

All valid points. The previous “deposit for a spot in the queue” idea might be the happy medium. Could easily get way out of hand depending on the demand. I’m more than happy to give a small “interest free loan” to secure a spot in an upcoming production run, but I’m not cool with a full payment down on a back ordered item with an ambiguous production/ship date.


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[Jbehredt]

I’d be all over a Backorder with an estimated ship date accurate to within a month. Pushing it out by season I’d rather get notification of a drop.

 

[omicron1792]

Or if you'd be willing to do a group buy maybe late summer for the Rokslide fam. Offer a slight discount like Unknown did or the other group buys.
I mean the price of your products is already incredibly great. But say knock $50 off each can or something just before season for Roksliders.

They did that with the last pre order.

 

[JM151]

We have a new website going live next week that should significantly improve traffic and overall reliability. We didn’t want to launch it before this drop in case there were any bugs that could create issues with a high volume of orders.

With that said, would Roksliders prefer that we open backorders on the new website around mid-January? That would allow you to place orders at your convenience, with no rush, and we would simply update ship dates as we work through allocations.

Our goal is to do what works best for everyone. We’re also currently getting a few quotes to bring printing in-house to help support demand and timelines.

Would keep as drop dates. Doing back orders would be a headache and not worth it. People would be complaining nonstop about why they haven’t received their order.

 

[2buffalo]

Why would a manufacturer give discounts when they can't keep a product in stock? If it were me I would keep doing what you're doing. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Increasing production is what I would be concentrating on.

 

[BreechFace]

Why would a manufacturer give discounts when they can't keep a product in stock? If it were me I would keep doing what you're doing. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Increasing production is what I would be concentrating on.

Agreed. I would be keeping prices flat and take the income to establish your company with good equipment and operators.

Based off the reviews I’ve seen you have a fairly novel design as far as performance, capitalize on that to build a strong company and employee culture.

I hope the longevity of the suppressors with use show themselves. I would prepare my company to provide great customer service if issues present themselves.

I’m excited to get my 7mm can and hunt with it, hopefully it meets my expectations and provides long trouble free use.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

We have a new website going live next week that should significantly improve traffic and overall reliability. We didn’t want to launch it before this drop in case there were any bugs that could create issues with a high volume of orders.

With that said, would Roksliders prefer that we open backorders on the new website around mid-January? That would allow you to place orders at your convenience, with no rush, and we would simply update ship dates as we work through allocations.

Our goal is to do what works best for everyone. We’re also currently getting a few quotes to bring printing in-house to help support demand and timelines.

Yes!!!!

 

[tak]

So would mirage be the only negative if you used a ZG for NRL Hunter or similar range sessions? 5-8 shots relatively quick, but still below the thresholds you guys have listed.

Only asking, because it's been pretty clearly stated that this fills a specific niche for hunting, which is why I ordered it, but I like to shoot and swapping cans around never really happens like you think it will when you buy your first can.

Hopefully my Black Friday ZG ships soon, and kicking myself for not getting the nano this morning.

 

[Hurley88]

That’s why I’m wanting them to make a heavier/longer version of theirs. Lightweight suppressors have thinner walls and will show mirage very early into a shot string. Can’t beat physics.

I wouldn’t personally use the Zero Gravity for NRL Hunter…but it’s not like you can’t; suppressor covers can do amazing things I’m told. Don’t know if a cover could keep such a lightweight suppressor mirage-free for 8 shots, I’ve never tried it.

Edit: I’m aware heavier & longer suppressors already exist, but the Airlock turns that annoying crack into a hiss and traps a ton of gas which helps slightly with recoil versus other cans IME. Hence the preference for a heavy Airlock.

 

[Jake Larsen]

That’s why I’m wanting them to make a heavier/longer version of theirs. Lightweight suppressors have thinner walls and will show mirage very early into a shot string. Can’t beat physics.

I wouldn’t personally use the Zero Gravity for NRL Hunter…but it’s not like you can’t; suppressor covers can do amazing things I’m told. Don’t know if a cover could keep such a lightweight suppressor mirage-free for 8 shots, I’ve never tried it.

There’s lots of high quality heavier options on the market. Whats wrong with choosing one of them if weight isn’t a big concern? Just trying to see your logic of why these guys should make something heavier on purpose. They’re currently hitting a niche that doesn’t exist.


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[Hurley88]

There’s lots of high quality heavier options on the market. Whats wrong with choosing one of them if weight isn’t a big concern? Just trying to see your logic of why these guys should make something heavier on purpose. They’re currently hitting a niche that doesn’t exist.


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Ha! Saw this right after I edited my post. You’re right about their niche though, I don’t see them doing something like that for years.

 

[HuntHarder]

You guys wanting to minimize mirage should look into some of extreme heat covers from Armageddon or corset from Cole tac. It'll add weight but it will help with delaying mirage.

 

[Jake Larsen]

Ha! Saw this right after I edited my post. You’re right about their niche though, I don’t see them doing something like that for years.

There’s definitely something to the 3D printed baffle designs. The suppression they’re getting in the small packages does make a person wonder what they could do with a 10-12 oz can. I think we’re gonna see some pretty impressive stuff in the next few years


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[Kaleb]

I set an alarm t order one and haven't been able to. has anyone been able to get a order through?

 

[BreechFace]

I set an alarm t order one and haven't been able to. has anyone been able to get a order through?

I ordered one this morning, I imagine they have cut it off by now. Maybe reach out to Danny via email.

 

[glock233]

We have a new website going live next week that should significantly improve traffic and overall reliability. We didn’t want to launch it before this drop in case there were any bugs that could create issues with a high volume of orders.

With that said, would Roksliders prefer that we open backorders on the new website around mid-January? That would allow you to place orders at your convenience, with no rush, and we would simply update ship dates as we work through allocations.

Our goal is to do what works best for everyone. We’re also currently getting a few quotes to bring printing in-house to help support demand and timelines.

Yes please do this.

 

[stonewall]

I set an alarm t order one and haven't been able to. has anyone been able to get a order through?

maybe I'm not crazy then. I could have sworn the website said PM a while back. then i just happened to look on rokslide this morning and saw people were buying. I missed the 6.5 i wanted but got the nano.

 

[Kaleb]

maybe I'm not crazy then. I could have sworn the website said PM a while back. then i just happened to look on rokslide this morning and saw people were buying. I missed the 6.5 i wanted but got the nano.

I set my alarm for pm too. I obviously made the mistake of pm not am. Will see how it goes. I want a couple it .I will/would buy them but with US coming out with one too I won’t stay on my knees too long

 

[Kaleb]

We have a new website going live next week that should significantly improve traffic and overall reliability. We didn’t want to launch it before this drop in case there were any bugs that could create issues with a high volume of orders.

With that said, would Roksliders prefer that we open backorders on the new website around mid-January? That would allow you to place orders at your convenience, with no rush, and we would simply update ship dates as we work through allocations.

Our goal is to do what works best for everyone. We’re also currently getting a few quotes to bring printing in-house to help support demand and timelines.

Yes please.

 

[lintond]

We have a new website going live next week that should significantly improve traffic and overall reliability. We didn’t want to launch it before this drop in case there were any bugs that could create issues with a high volume of orders.

With that said, would Roksliders prefer that we open backorders on the new website around mid-January? That would allow you to place orders at your convenience, with no rush, and we would simply update ship dates as we work through allocations.

Our goal is to do what works best for everyone. We’re also currently getting a few quotes to bring printing in-house to help support demand and timelines.

I can understand the advantage of a drop from manufacturer side, but from my side I often feel it’s a way to manipulate demand. For other products I’ve completely went away from buying them after missing out on a drop or two. I’d rather place a backorder with a well understood ship date….not a CarbonSix ship date that is blown by months & months

Can’t wait to get my ZG can in the spring! Keep up the good work innovating and being transparent in your testing and R&D.


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