Acoustic Bear Deterrent?

[bowieknife50]

Hi everyone,

Seems like I've been catching a lot of discussions about bears and bear safety on here and various podcasts. The normal debate is spray vs pistol (let's not do that here), and some shotgun stuff mixed in. My question-having absolutely zero experience with anything but black bears-is how effective would a siren/bullhorn be at moving a bear out of an area. I don't mean stopping a charge, but maybe for example if you're coming back to a meat cache or have a bear checking out your camp but yet at a distance.

Just curious.
Tim

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[Stid2677]

Hi everyone,

Seems like I've been catching a lot of discussions about bears and bear safety on here and various podcasts. The normal debate is spray vs pistol (let's not do that here), and some shotgun stuff mixed in. My question-having absolutely zero experience with anything but black bears-is how effective would a siren/bullhorn be at moving a bear out of an area. I don't mean stopping a charge, but maybe for example if you're coming back to a meat cache or have a bear checking out your camp but yet at a distance.

Just curious.
Tim

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I have on 3 occasions fired shots into the ground near Grizzly's, they were each time unaffected. I have found human urine highly effective at keeping them off meat and other items. If you have noticed a dog or wolf marking with urine,, bears do too. My experience only, with 14 years in the Alaskan bush. I had to run off 2 Grizzlys this last sheep hunt alone.

The bear that killed this Bou walked into our camp was run off by yelling.

My ram was left under these trees with a urine fence and open bottle of urine for days while we killed a 2nd ram with bears all around.

 

[Stid2677]

I do know a few folks that have had luck leaving a small radio playing in camp and around meat.

 

[KJH]

My experience is that noise is good for scaring away black bears. I don't know about how it would work with grizzly/browns, but I do like the idea of a small radio playing quietly when you're not there. I don't hunt browns/grizzlies so I'd be worried about scaring off any other game that's within megaphone earshot.

I pee all around my meat cache and on all the trails coming near it. An added bonus is that my partner snores really loud so I think that keeps grizzly bears away at night, although I still get paranoid. Never had a real problem despite plenty of grizzlies being around, so maybe the noise helps, but I give more credit to the scent.

I have always thought that scent is the best deterrent. If I have to leave meat overnight to finish a packing job the next day, I carry a few of the tree shaped "new car scent" air fresheners in a ziplock within a ziplock to hang around the kill in all directions to put out a lot of foreign scent.

 

[wytx]

A long time retired Alaska hunting guide told me just last week that he used ammonia in bottles to keep bears out of his tents. Placed a bottle of ammonia just inside the tent with the door just open a little bit. Put some good smelling something on the bottle to attract him to bite it. They never came back after getting a taste of the ammonia. I'm thinking finding some way to put it around your kill site may help keep them away.

 

[Stid2677]

A long time retired Alaska hunting guide told me just last week that he used ammonia in bottles to keep bears out of his tents. Placed a bottle of ammonia just inside the tent with the door just open a little bit. Put some good smelling something on the bottle to attract him to bite it. They never came back after getting a taste of the ammonia. I'm thinking finding some way to put it around your kill site may help keep them away.

When protein is processed in the body ammonia is created in the digestion and is expelled in your urine. I believe this is why both urine and ammonia are effective at repelling them.

One observation I learned while baiting,, was that a rag soaked in perfume was highly effective as an attractant. I tried it after reading of its use for hair traps that were used for DNA collection by some researchers.

 

[the rookie]

ive found coffe grounds to also help that with urine its seemed to do the trick

 

[mtnkid85]

When I have to leave meat, I always pee a generous circle around it. Then I also leave a flashing light hanging with it as well, the type used for a bicycle.

I like the idea of leaving a container off urine with it too.

 

[ndbwhunter]

Some good information here. Never had an issue with meat that is hung high enough (only hunt around black bears).

I usually just piss all over myself to deter attacks. Seems to keep away bears and hunting partners

Only kidding....

 

[Beendare]

I've heard a couple Kereoke singers that might work as a deterrent on a charging Grizzly bear.....
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Hoping the acoustics from my SW 629 along with the accompanying thump will work if ever called for.

It sure seemed like the blast from Fred Eichlers guides pistol was what turned the mama bear charging them in the raft.

 

[Jauwater]

I’ve never had to try one, but I’ve heard of success stories with bear horns. It’s just a different type of loud. I don’t know why the urine idea never crossed my mind. Makes perfect sense.


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[Antlers]

I have had zero success with noise and brown bears on quite a few occasions. I had a problem bear several years ago and torched off a 21" barreled 416Rem with a muzzle break w/in 15yds of him-shot right at his feet, and he never flinched. I've stopped wasting bullets. I've seen seal bombs bounced off of browns and that has worked, but I don't know how much the noise contributed. I've seen air horns used twice - no effect. Of course in all of these instances there was alot of hollering that was ignored, as well...

 

[bigdesert10]

When I read the title of this thread, I thought it was going to be about a Sugarland album.