I have a 2 Accupoint 3-9s, both with the mil-dot. One mounted on a 30-06 and another on a .223. I really like them, but sometimes wish the reticle was thinner for target shooting. For a non-dialing hunting scope they are great. Recently, I had an issue with the bottom portion of the reticle either breaking, or somehow changing shape. It corrects itself if you bang the bolt in/out a couple times, then comes back after firing. Zero did not change after this problem started. I'm sending the scope back shortly for warranty work - will update here.