A Long PSA Post - Kuiu Peloton 97 vs Black Diamond Whippet - Does your med kit suck?

[LaHunter]

what is the purpose of a the 'whippet' bladed trekking pole? Looks like it may be for ice, not deep south bottomland.

 

[Cervid]

I used to ski with whippets (sometimes double whippets, lol) a lot, but really unless you’re in no fall zones above cliffs or the avalanche conditions are less than ideal, they definitely are a bigger risk to the user than the risk mitigation they are accomplishing.

I don’t quite understand why you’d want to hike around in a swamp with a whippet. Sounds like a normal old school cane with the hook would work just as well without the risk of impaling yourself.

 

[ChrisAU]

Yeah I’m definitely a bit whacko for hunting where it’s useful, but struggling up slick steep creek banks in the dark it has been super useful for getting around. The design allows it dig in the ground a bit and grab a buried root to pull on. The risk is probably greater than the reward though. I’m certainly not hunting over corn piles from a shooting house I drove my ATV up to lol.

 

[Idaboy]

I read the story then looked at the pics. Was a bit surprised at the seemingly minor wound. Not at all what I visualized for a wound that would leave a blood trail.
But yeah carry a decent med kit.
Wrap some electrical tape and duck tape around your trekking pole handles. Then you’ll have it handy.

Boy, ^^^^that really oozes sympathy

 

[ChrisAU]

Boy, ^^^^that really oozes sympathy

I mean it wound up being a minor injury, I was just pointing out the near miss and how unprepared I was hoping that others might learn a little with me.

 

[dieselchessy]

Boy, ^^^^that really oozes sympathy

LOL, no sympathy intended. Was contemplating if this was a Pat McManus type purposefully exaggerated story or if this guy is a hypochondriac.

 

[ChrisAU]

LOL, no sympathy intended. Was contemplating if this was a Pat McManus type purposefully exaggerated story or if this guy is a hypochondriac.

I’d suggest staying out of PSA threads since you know everything already, they will be a waste of your time.

 

[Idaboy]

LOL, no sympathy intended. Was contemplating if this was a Pat McManus type purposefully exaggerated story or if this guy is a hypochondriac.

The arteries run on the underside of forearm, (the side of his injury) right next to bone. The injury was closer to the ulnar side, the radial artery tends to be bigger. A couple inches closer to wrist and could have hit one of those.....hard to compress area.

Sh#%t happens fast out there. Good learning experience for all of us, whether "major" or "minor" injury.

 

[Sled]

Keep the TQ in your hip pocket of the pack or on your person. If that ever happens again, put the TQ on first before pulling out the object. You should not pull out an impaled object but sometimes you have no choice. The TQ will control bleeding and you can loosen it to check damage if you'll be further than 4 hours from definitive care. Those type of wounds are usually controlled with direct pressure. Slightly larger or even gun shot wounds can be packed with curlex using the two finger method. Pack it until you can't get any more in and cover it.

 

[Cervid]

Thank you for sharing this story

 

[Steve O]

I’d suggest staying out of PSA threads since you know everything already, they will be a waste of your time.

There is a LOT of that here lately…it’s like a whole bunch of dudes that did not have mothers need to flex; if you have nothing positive to contribute just move on to the next topic.

Those “whippets” or ice axes for trekking poles scare the crap out of me for just that reason. I actually sent your story to my hunting buddy text chain to remind them to be careful with sharp things! Thank you for posting.

 

[eamyrick]

Glad it didn’t hit something that really bled. In a stone glacier hip belt pocket (attached to the left strap of my Bino harness) I keep quick clot combat gauze, leukotape, and a cat tq. I’ve used the gauze more than once for nasty cuts.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that I get in sketchy situations when I least expect it. I’ve used one of these loaded for a decade and it makes it really easy to toss it in a bag traveling or different pack when now just backcountry hunting.

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[AZ_Hunter]

We train to shoot.

Everyone should also at a minimum train in at least Stop The Bleed

 

[mtwarden]

Thanks for posting this; I have the exact same whippet and also lost a cover. I replaced it, but like the idea of having a spare cover—I'll order a couple of more

I don't routinely have it on my trekking pole, instead keeping it in the pack until the terrains dictates the need. I'll definitely be a bit more cautious when having it attached.

I do carry a small trauma kit and a couple of winters ago it likely saved my buddies dog's life (multi-day snowshoeing trip). He was crazily chasing squirrels as we traveled and eventually fell off a downed tree in pursuit of one of them and fell on a very sharp stob that punctured him in the stomach area.

After patching her up, my buddy ended up carrying her another 8 miles out to his truck and to the vet er room. They stitched her and pointed out that it almost pierced an intestine which would have been really bad. Anyways my buddy now carries a trauma kit.

 

[fwafwow]

I've moved my blood stoppers to my bino harness to make sure they're always readily available. TQ, quick clot gauze, zip stitches all right there and handy to stop a bleed right now. What are you hauling in your improved first aid kits?

Thanks for this. It prompted me to stuff a SnakeStaff TQ and some gauze into my bino harness. (I know the concerns over the Snakestaff, but it's laying around and better than the TQ that is NOT in there.) Still have a more fulsome IFAK that I make every attempt to remember to carry, but sometimes still forget.