6 Dasher thread

[Rockpicker]

At that die price I’m guessing it’s got to be whale oil or nothing.

Some pricing on components is ridiculous. It’s what the market bears so why not.

Powder is about $60/# but it’s never available for long it seems so I guess it’s priced correctly. It’s not going to get better either. More profit making powder for what the government needs than retail for rifle cartridges.

 

[Hydra6]

Iv always just applied imperial with my fingers, but just started experimenting with Dillon/lanolin spray.

Loaded thousands of Dasher with Dillon lanolin spray

 

[Hydra6]

I use an arbor press for all my seating and have their fancy seater sitting in my cart….

I need to figure out an option for a different seating stem for the TMK for my Wilson seater.

Iv never been a fan of seating on a press, atleast not a cheap one, like I’m still using. I havnt brought myself to commit to a fancy press like the sac or a419 quite yet. I want another v4 trickler before that one happens

I use the same Forster 6 Dasher seating die for all my Dasher projectiles - 105 Hybrid, 115 DTAC, 105/112 Match Burners, and now 116 TMK.

 

[wyosam]

I use Whidden for my dasher, will probably pick up a second seater for my hunting bullets though (hunt with monos, plink and practice with match burners or whatever I last bought on sale). I hate adjusting dies once load development is done.


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[sierracharlie338]

Iv always just applied imperial with my fingers, but just started experimenting with Dillon/lanolin spray.

I really liked that stuff then had a batch of it get sticky on me. Prob from being stored in the garage and being old but not positive.

Really liked it for a long time.

 

[Treelineasassin]

I use an arbor press for all my seating and have their fancy seater sitting in my cart….

I need to figure out an option for a different seating stem for the TMK for my Wilson seater.

Iv never been a fan of seating on a press, atleast not a cheap one, like I’m still using. I havnt brought myself to commit to a fancy press like the sac or a419 quite yet. I want another v4 trickler before that one happens

A419 press is very nice. I have a turret that is setup for 473 diameter cases and 223, then another turret for magnums. SAC seater saves a ton of real-estate on the turret.

Buy a red bottle of heat(99% Isopropyl) from auto parts store, mix some quality liquid lanolin oil, 12:1 ration, in a chemical grade spray bottle. Boom huge supply of badass sizing lube for very cheap. Spread brass on cookie sheet, give it 4-5 sprays to cover the tray evenly, roll em around by moving the sheet in various directions for coating, wait a bit for the alcohol flash off, and go to town. I've been doing it this way for years. Tumble brass for an hour afterwards in corn con or medium Walnut to get rid the lube.

 

[Lawnboi]

I use the same Forster 6 Dasher seating die for all my Dasher projectiles - 105 Hybrid, 115 DTAC, 105/112 Match Burners, and now 116 TMK.

I think I’ll give the forester a try for a hundred bucks. Looks like they made an arbor press adapter as well if I’m not satisfied with the big press.

What’s strange is I have no issues with Berger hybrids, the ELDs and vmax but the sierras cause some rings. Iv never been incredibly impressed with Wilson seating stems and bullet fit, wish they made more specific stems than just VLD or non

 

[Rockpicker]

A419 press is very nice. I have a turret that is setup for 473 diameter cases and 223, then another turret for magnums. SAC seater saves a ton of real-estate on the turret.

Buy a red bottle of heat(99% Isopropyl) from auto parts store, mix some quality liquid lanolin oil, 12:1 ration, in a chemical grade spray bottle. Boom huge supply of badass sizing lube for very cheap. Spread brass on cookie sheet, give it 4-5 sprays to cover the tray evenly, roll em around by moving the sheet in various directions for coating, wait a bit for the alcohol flash off, and go to town. I've been doing it this way for years. Tumble brass for an hour afterwards in corn con or medium Walnut to get rid the lube.

I don’t tumble afterwards. I put brass in a gallon ziplock bag and a couple squirts of brakleen and seal the bag and gently roll them around about 10 seconds and then spread a handful out on a towel and fold the towel over on them and rub them a few seconds. Place them in the tray for priming. Working well so far.

 

[Chris in TN]

I’ve used red HEET plus lanolin (medela brand from Amazon) for over a decade. Just keep the spray bottle nozzle closed between uses so the alcohol doesn’t evaporate.

I spray one spray per handful of brass, roll them around, and I have a nylon neck brush I stick in with my cases when I spray them, then I run it through each case neck before sizing. By the time that’s done the lube is dry. No further prep needed. I half heartedly wipe cases after loading. That’s it.

I want absolutely minimal lube in the neck. Just enough to keep the thinnest possible presence on the expander button.

 

[wind gypsy]

I've been doing the home brew lanonlin spray thing for a while now. Dirt cheap and fast. I just put 100 pieces in a gallon ziplock, spray a few times, zip up and roll around, let alcohol flash off, and proceed. I always tumble them off in rice but brakleen and a quick towel rub sounds nice too if they aren't dirty.

 

[MacJenkins]

Might as well get the SAC universal seater, I run the same exact die for everything from 22br to 7saw, don't change the stem or anything. You will have to raise or lower the die depending on case length as the micrometer doesn't have enough travel to seat 22 bullets at 2.4 coal, and big heavy 65s and 7s at 2.97 coal. It'll eliminate a bunch of dies and simplify stuff, especially on a turret press.

Been using one of hte SAC seaters for the last month. Nice kit. Trying out an AMP press as well.

 

[huntnful]

I've been doing the home brew lanonlin spray thing for a while now. Dirt cheap and fast. I just put 100 pieces in a gallon ziplock, spray a few times, zip up and roll around, let alcohol flash off, and proceed. I always tumble them off in rice but brakleen and a quick towel rub sounds nice too if they aren't dirty.

Yeah I like to tumble afterwards still. The case lube inside the necks that doesn’t get wiped out gives off a higher ES than if you tumble them and remove it. At least in my experience testing it.

 

[KyleR1985]

Yeah I like to tumble afterwards still. The case lube inside the necks that doesn’t get wiped out gives off a higher ES than if you tumble them and remove it. At least in my experience testing it.

Reloading idiot question:

lube in the necks from sizing is more impactful to big sd/es than dents and dings from tumbling and cleaning brass?

That’s counter intuitive to me, but I’ve never tumbled brass. I’ve been considering annealing and cleaning a lot of brass at one time, across all of my guns. Trying to figure out best way to execute. I would’ve thought sizing neck should be the last thing I do before I stick a bullet in it.

 

[wind gypsy]

Reloading idiot question:

lube in the necks from sizing is more impactful to big sd/es than dents and dings from tumbling and cleaning brass?

What are these dents and dings you speak of? I don't notice any from vibratory tumbling.

 

[huntnful]

Reloading idiot question:

lube in the necks from sizing is more impactful to big sd/es than dents and dings from tumbling and cleaning brass?

That’s counter intuitive to me, but I’ve never tumbled brass. I’ve been considering annealing and cleaning a lot of brass at one time, across all of my guns. Trying to figure out best way to execute. I would’ve thought sizing neck should be the last thing I do before I stick a bullet in it.

Not a dumb question, if you’ve never done it before. It’s doesn’t dent or ding up the necks at all.

And I should clarify that I meant vibratory tumble, not stainless media tumbling in water.

 

[Judd]

I think I’ll give the forester a try for a hundred bucks. Looks like they made an arbor press adapter as well if I’m not satisfied with the big press.

What’s strange is I have no issues with Berger hybrids, the ELDs and vmax but the sierras cause some rings. Iv never been incredibly impressed with Wilson seating stems and bullet fit, wish they made more specific stems than just VLD or non

Most of the BR guys make their own...if you chuck up the bullet in a drill, put lapping compound on the bullet then turn the drill on and engage the spinning bullet w/ the seating stem...you make your own very bullet specific. It takes a bit but when you're done, you've got exactly what you want.

 

[Lawnboi]

Most of the BR guys make their own...if you chuck up the bullet in a drill, put lapping compound on the bullet then turn the drill on and engage the spinning bullet w/ the seating stem...you make your own very bullet specific. It takes a bit but when you're done, you've got exactly what you want.

I tried that with no luck. I might need a more aggressive compound

 

[wyosam]

I tried that with no luck. I might need a more aggressive compound

Can also bed the seating stem. Lightly coat a bullet in shoe polish, remove seating stem, put just a little jb weld inside, still the bullet in and let it sit overnight. Pop the bullet out, reassemble, and you should be set.


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[Hydra6]

6 Dasher yesterday - checking out the new 116TMKs and trying out some 112 Match Burners. This is a custom PRS rig, 27.5 inch Krieger barrel with 2300+ rounds of PRS match ammo - in theory, this barrel is done but still hammering.

No load development, no measuring seating depth, etc. Used my Forster seating die at my normal 105 Hybrid setting (never changes). Obviously can add some powder and get some more speed; however, note the groups and the SDs. Alpha brass (6+ firings, annealed every firing) and CCI 450 primers.

Dasher is easy - the thread is going down some black magic rabbit holes that are not required. Either Dasher is the easy button or it isn't.

PS - I am not a great group shooter to begin with.

 

[wyosam]

6 Dasher yesterday - checking out the new 116TMKs and trying out some 112 Match Burners. This is a custom PRS rig, 27.5 inch Krieger barrel with 2300+ rounds of PRS match ammo - in theory, this barrel is done but still hammering.

No load development, no measuring seating depth, etc. Used my Forster seating die at my normal 105 Hybrid setting (never changes). Obviously can add some powder and get some more speed; however, note the groups and the SDs. Alpha brass (6+ firings, annealed every firing) and CCI 450 primers.

Dasher is easy - the thread is going down some black magic rabbit holes that are not required. Either Dasher is the easy button or it isn't.

PS - I am not a great group shooter to begin with.

Exactly! The Dasher is great because it’s forgiving. No rabbit holes required when used outside BR/F-class. Think I’m going to have Lee Make me a collet neck sizer. They are awesome for cartridges you shoot a lot. No lube, no cleaning of lube, hard to find a way to work the brass less.


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