6 creed with 95 TMK thoughts

[ElPollo]

Sierra is "putting resources mostly towards the most popular offerings, production timelines may be extended for less popular bullet offerings" is what I was told.

Sierra accidentally produced a great bullet with the TMK, but otherwise could not find its own ass with both hands and the lights on. I’d love to see them wake up and expand, produce and market what they have with the TMK. Everything else they make is 30 to 60 years behind the times. I’ve emailed them suggesting that they should make a 145 gr 6.5, a 105-115 gr 6 mm and an 85-90 gr .224 in the TMK line and ramp up their manufacturing of the rest of the line. Their response was that the bullet was not appropriate for hunting and that those weights were too heavy for most factory twist rates.

 

[BjornF16]

Sierra accidentally produced a great bullet with the TMK, but otherwise could not find its own ass with both hands and the lights on. I’d love to see them wake up and expand, produce and market what they have with the TMK. Everything else they make is 30 to 60 years behind the times. I’ve emailed them suggesting that they should make a 145 gr 6.5, a 105-115 gr 6 mm and an 85-90 gr .224 in the TMK line and ramp up their manufacturing of the rest of the line. Their response was that the bullet was not appropriate for hunting and that those weights were too heavy for most factory twist rates.

Sierra do make a 140 gr TMK; not sure why they would reply the way they did if they are making that bullet. Whomever responded must not be aware of the 22 CM, 6CM/6XC, and 6.5 CM/PRC offerings out today

 

[khuber84]

Sierra do make a 140 gr TMK; not sure why they would reply the way they did if they are making that bullet. Whomever responded must not be aware of the 22 CM, 6CM/6XC, and 6.5 CM/PRC offerings out today

They make a 140 tgk available to public, and they did a run of 140tmk with a blue tip for federal but that's vaporware to us hand loaders. Yes we need heavy for call tmk bullets!

 

[woods89]

Their response was that the bullet was not appropriate for hunting and that those weights were too heavy for most factory twist rates.

That's a bit short sighted of them.......

 

[Formidilosus]

That's a bit short sighted of them.......

Sierra is shortsighted in most ways.

 

[woods89]

Sierra is shortsighted in most ways.

Meanwhile Hornady continues to gain market share. It makes no sense.

 

[Formidilosus]

Meanwhile Hornady continues to gain market share. It makes no sense.

It does once you realize the Hornady has people- engineers, ballisticians, the CEO, etc. that actively western hunt and shoot modern competition - PRS, 3-gun, etc; and Sierra does not.

 

[wind gypsy]

I see a few other bullets mentioned but I'm a little surprised nobody is using the 95gr Berger with their 6mm Creed.

Scheels had berger 6 creed 95 classic hunter ammo on sale earlier this year so i bought some. Seems like a pretty good option for factory ammo with my only hesitation being SRPs.

I think Feldkamp's reamer is 0.135"ish or less freebore (I think SAAMI is .188") which resulted in said berger ammo jamming hard in the lands for me so I had to seat it deeper and it shoots pretty well.

 

[B23]

Scheels had berger 6 creed 95 classic hunter ammo on sale earlier this year so i bought some. Seems like a pretty good option for factory ammo with my only hesitation being SRPs.

I think Feldkamp's reamer is 0.135"ish or less freebore (I think SAAMI is .188") which resulted in said berger ammo jamming hard in the lands for me so I had to seat it deeper and it shoots pretty well.

I've never shot any of the Berger ammo but my 6 Creed has a pretty short FB so I may have the same issue if I tried to shoot any of that Berger 95gr ammo as well.

 

[khuber84]

I've never shot any of the Berger ammo but my 6 Creed has a pretty short FB so I may have the same issue if I tried to shoot any of that Berger 95gr ammo as well.

Surprisingly with this 0.100 freebore chamber, Berger 105 hyb ammo was only 10k jam, and shot well there. Also shot pretty darn well 25-50k jump, but was slow, 2750 from the short 18", it runs 2920 in a 24" havak. 6cm is such a sleeper cartridge, it's extremely accurate, easy to load for, feeds well, and heavy 6mm bullets kill and cut wind. Short ish barrel life is it's only downfall.

 

[doc holiday13]

I shoot a 6x6.8spc. I shoot Barnes 85g TSX at 2990. Its a hammer. I can't imagine 10 more grains and a lead core bullet at the same or faster. Go for the neck shot and it'll dropp'm on the spot

 

[B23]

Scheels had berger 6 creed 95 classic hunter ammo on sale earlier this year so i bought some. Seems like a pretty good option for factory ammo with my only hesitation being SRPs.

I think Feldkamp's reamer is 0.135"ish or less freebore (I think SAAMI is .188") which resulted in said berger ammo jamming hard in the lands for me so I had to seat it deeper and it shoots pretty well.

After reading this and knowing my 6 CM has very little FB I bought a box of the Berger 95 Classic Hunter ammo and it's a no go in my gun too. At least not without seating them deeper in the case. Do you recall how much deeper you had to seat yours to get the bolt closed?

 

[wind gypsy]

After reading this and knowing my 6 CM has very little FB I bought a box of the Berger 95 Classic Hunter ammo and it's a no go in my gun too. At least not without seating them deeper in the case. Do you recall how much deeper you had to seat yours to get the bolt closed?

IIRC I just turned the micrometer down until it touched the bullet and then seated another 40-50 thou deeper. Confirmed no resistance when chambering and ran with it.

I measured distance to lands with 108 Elite hunters last night and they dont have much bearing surface in the neck when touching and they even have a fair bit longer bearing surface than the 95 CH. There must be very little bullet in the neck on those 95 factory rounds.

 

[khuber84]

IIRC I just turned the micrometer down until it touched the bullet and then seated another 40-50 thou deeper. Confirmed no resistance when chambering and ran with it.

I measured distance to lands with 108 Elite hunters last night and they dont have much bearing surface in the neck when touching and they even have a fair bit longer bearing surface than the 95 CH. There must be very little bullet in the neck on those 95 factory rounds.

If 108elitea don't have much bearing in the neck, Im thinking you're close to saami, if you've burnt some throat. My proof prefit is saami, and I've got about 400 rounds through it now? With erosion I'm sure I'm around 200 freebore now. 108 elites in that rifle jumping 30k are a ways up the neck. A 120-130 freebore is about the sweet spot for Bergers. I know a 108 elite in my 6gt 120fb chamber jumping 20k was bout 25k in front of neck shoulder junction. Although I have found a lot of bto variations in the newer lots of Berger bullets VS my lots from 3-4 years ago. Last two years production of 156 Bergers have almost 30k longer bullet base to ogive VS my lots from 3-4 years back.

 

[Benjy howell]

I haven't been able to find the 95 tmk's. It would be a deadly combo with the 6 creedmoor.

Randy

Has anybody found the 95 tmk in stock anywhere or have any idea when they will be available?

 

[khuber84]

Has anybody found the 95 tmk in stock anywhere or have any idea when they will be available?

No clue, I have email alerts set up though 12 different sites for in stock notice. I'm doing to about 150 left. I know they shoot pretty well around 3050-3070 in my 18" 6cm.

 

[Benjy howell]

No clue, I have email alerts set up though 12 different sites for in stock notice. I'm doing to about 150 left. I know they shoot pretty well around 3050-3070 in my 18" 6cm.

Thanks if I find some in stock I will post back here for all to see

 

[Bater]

Reviving this thread, just found 95 TMK’s in stock at Creedmoor Sports just fyi

 

[khuber84]

I'll have near 3k when all my orders are in. Going to set up my short 6gt and 6cm with the 95s and wreak some havak this fall.

 

[SloppyJ]

Haven't tried them but the 77s and the 130s are shooting good for me in .223 and 6.5cm. If your gun doesnt like them try the 95 ballistic tip if you want to stay at that weight. Those are straight killers in my experience but ive also had great luck with the 108 elite hunters. There are a lot of good 6mm bullets.