6.5mm Projectile for Moose

[541hunter]

I may have missed it, but out of curiosity what barrel length was the creed and what is it on the PRC?

 

[Nine Banger]

They are both 18's.

I may have missed it, but out of curiosity what barrel length was the creed and what is it on the PRC?

 

[Bluumoon]

Show me the 130 TMK#s. I have some rolled up and shooting lights out. If you would be so kind, some necropsy photos before the end of October would be helpful too.

 

[Nine Banger]

@Bluumoon, here's where I'm at with 130gr TMK.



No pressure signs.

I can't help but wonder if that stiff bolt is one play away from where I'm at but I was wrong on the last 2 shots.

I figured I'd be pulling bullets by now.

Our doe season opens 9/15 and I'll be in the saddle. That's my big day. I'm not a motivated buck hunter.

 

[Nine Banger]

Update for the 130gr TMK:

At 2.955 OAL I got 2848 fps w/ 61 grains N565 and 2872fps w/ 61.5 grains same powder.

61.6 grains N565 encroaches into the neck but settles with a few taps on the table and is crunchy seating but does not show an ejector mark or make a stiff bolt.

This is the Shooter data for 60.5gr N565 MV 2808fps with the section of the screen that show the upper end of range that stops around 1800fps.

 

[Nine Banger]

This is the Shooter data for 57gr H1000 w/ 147gr ELD in the same rifle.




I was intrigued that the H1000 is faster than N565 w/ 147gr ELD but slower w/ 156 EOL.

I'm seeing the 147gr H1000 load as a 750yard gun and the 130TMK N565 load as a 670 yard gun (or a 630 yard gun if 1000lbs of energy is more important than 1800fps).

 

[Nine Banger]

I ran a ladder for H1000 today.




18" 6.5 PRC 2.955 OAL 130gr TMK

I had an ejector mark at 58 grains, an unmarked round at 58.5 grains and then got stiff at 59 grains.

 

[Nine Banger]

I ran another set of 130gr TMK 2.955 OAL with N565 powder just to check what I did yesterday.

I had pressure at 59.5 but I'm thinking its from touching the lands.

The pen is pointing to my data from today. The blue border sheet is posted above and from yesterday.






I'll load up some at 60 or 60.5 grains and do a 10 round group to adjust for zero tomorrow and get Bluumoon those whitetail necropsies before I start screwing around with 147gr ELDs again.

 

[Nine Banger]

Just checking in. Since the last post I've dickered with the different powders but I think I'm settling into 57gr H1000 with the 147gr ELD. It's not as fast as it could be with N565 with a larger load but the 57gr H1000 load is just laying the shots right on top of each other and is pleasant to shoot.

 

[jhm2023]

Not options on the poll but, 127gr LRX and 124gr Hammer Hunters have both been excellent on multiple moose out of my wife's 6.5 Creed, even on hard quartering shots. Distances from ~20 yards to ~350 yards. Both leaving the muzzle just over 2,900 fps from a 22" barrel.

 

[mtnbound]

The easy button 147gr ELDM.

 

[justin davis]

I’d think 147 ELdm or the 156 Berger would be tough to beat

 

[Nine Banger]

Here's the moose rifle with 130gr TMK. 76lbs White-tailed doe. 2558fps.

 

[Nine Banger]

Here's the moose rifle with 130gr TMK. 74lbs White-tailed doe. 2675fps

 

[Nine Banger]

Here's the moose rifle with 130gr TMK. 103lbs white-tailed doe. 2658fps.

The boot photo and one before it is a fragment that exited thru the front neck area.

Pardon the blurry heart photo I know that's the one that counts and I blew it...although its not as remotely disappointing as a bad shot.

 

[Nine Banger]

Here's some good stuff I found in my reflex tonight. I heard it when I took it off to put it in my travel case.

 

[Bluumoon]

Holes look plenty big

 

[swavescatter]

I'm curious why your PRC is so slow?

I'm getting 2650 fps in my creed with 43g of h4350 and 147 eldms, 18" barrel Tikka.

I'd want north of 2850 with aprc

 

[Nine Banger]

I'm curious why your PRC is so slow?

Those are estimated velocities at impact location based on muzzle velocity and range.

I can’t reach pressure with 130gr TMK and N565 before I run out of case volume but I can see mid 2800s MV with N565 with the TMK.

I think if I pursue that bullet long term I’ll try n560.

Also I’m at sea level. I can’t get 2600 with 43gr h4350 and 6.5cm without flattening primers.

 

[eaglemountainman]

127 LRX