These are factory for now. I bought a bunch of ammo just for the brass. The components to reload were about as expensive as the ammo itself. I'll start reloading this summer hopefully. OK, I'll admit, I'm not that great of a shooter anymore, my eyesight is not what it used to be. But I'm getting 1.5-2" groups at 100. Pretty good for me. Edit: The ammo is Hornady Black.