143 grain eldx out of a bergara ridge and aac cyclone. The middle boys first deer, he hit it behind the other shoulder quartered away and it came out the chest. Stumbled a little ways and died in the road. He was pumped up about it and I couldn't have been happier! We've been having a time all season getting him on one and making everything come together for him. The next one will be a little bigger young German Sheppard size.