50 cal load for youth?

[Fieds3536]

42 gr bh209 mmp sabot(blue). 155 grain 40 cal Hornady xtp great for 50 yards and kills and kicks like a 22 mag. My 6 year shoots this. Penetrates 1 gallon of water
56 gr bh209 mmp sabot 180gr 40 cal xtp is what I just moved him to. .410 recoil 1 inch group at 100 penetrates 2 gallons of water and stops in the third.
The xtp performs incredibly as far as expansion goes. His first deer didn’t have a pass through at 50 yards with the smaller charge and bullet but only went 10 yards.
Also shooting a cva wolf

Also 200 grains sst just blows through. You don’t need a heavy charge to push these bullets. But I have found the heavier bullet I used the more recoil felt. Even with the 56 grain weighed which is 80 volume. Don’t believe me try 80 grain and toss in a 320grain maxi ball or even a 240gr xtp. You’ll see a major increase in recoil. I tried the maxiball just for fun with 56 grain. Wife cracked the back door and said that sounded like it hurt

 

[Fieds3536]

My Acura with 95gr per volume kicks like a damn rented mule.

What grain bullet though. Heavier bullet will lay it on ya

 

[Hackleback]

A round ball and 50-70 gr of powder of choice? I have killed multiple whitetails with round balls, they still work.

 

[hunt1up]

I went through this exercise with my kids when they first started.

I started with 35 grains of Blackhorn by weight and a 200 grain Traditions Smackdown XR. Chrono was around 1250 fps. Recoil was absolutely nothing. Once they shot that a little I snuck up to 40 grains by weight. We killed several deer cleanly with this setup inside of 80 yards. A small "pop", blood trails weren't huge, but the deer die quickly and easily. I incrementally went up to 45 grains of BH, and later 50 grains.

Accuracy at all charge levels was the same. Hole in hole accurate. Put a gun in a tripod with a soft load and go hunt.

 

[MarkOrtiz]

My son (13 yr old) just got his first mule deer tag in NV. He can hunt all 3 weapons seasons. I'm thinking of trying some of these loads out and see if we can get out in September with the muzzleloader before rifle season opens in October.

 

[AnchorF22]

I started my 12 yo son at the range with 50gr of Triple 7, then worked up in 10gr increments-- 250gr FTX bullets. He was comfortable with 80gr at the range, and I loaded 100gr for elk season. The adrenaline knocks off a ton of perceived recoil, so he wouldn't even feel the difference at that point. Good luck this season!