30mm scopes. What am I missing?

[sndmn11]

Really? How did anyone ever kill anything with 1" scopes then. Just got lucky?

I don't know of a 1" scope that gives me ffp, mil reticle, and turrets I can dial.

I know of a single 1" scope that might pass a zero retention test.

I equate weight to the possibility of durable construction. I think only the optika5 gets to that mid 20oz weight. Which is the same as known durable 30mm scopes.

I also think that a deer/elk has a 1' circle-ish+ that one can send a bullet through to kill it. Add in most hunter's lack of skill shooting, equipment failures, and the sum of error is still 50/50 on smaller than those vitals. Luck, statistically likely due to vital size, ignorance, it can be called a lot of things.

 

[Bluumoon]

mkay. Guess I never needed them then. My VX-2 Leupys just keep making meat. What do I know?

My VX -2 sh*t the bed

 

[ndlawrence]

You’re not missing anything - when Savage invented the variable power, multi coated, scope in a 1” tube in 1893, after inventing the center fire cartridge and rifled barrels in 1652, it was a perfect product and needeth not any improvement.

(sarcasm)

 

[Newtosavage]

I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t hear that.

You know there’s a term for someone who asks for advice and then proceeds to tell everyone why their advice is wrong.

I'll say it again - you're saying a Leupy VX-2 is not well built or reliable...?

 

[Newtosavage]

You’re not missing anything - when Savage invented the variable power, multi coated, scope in a 1” tube in 1893, after inventing the center fire cartridge and rifled barrels in 1652, it was a perfect product and needeth not any improvement.

(sarcasm)

not helpful or funny

 

[Newtosavage]

I don't know if a 1" scope that gives me ffp, mil reticle, and turrets I can dial.

I know of a single 1" scope that might pass a zero retention test.

I equate weight to the possibility of durable construction. I think only the optika5 gets to that mid 20oz weight. Which is the same as known durable 30mm scopes.

I also think that a deer/elk has a 1' circle-ish+ that one can send a bullet through to kill it. Add in most hunter's lack of skill shooting, equipment failures, and the sum of error is still 50/50 on smaller than those vitals. Luck, statistically likely due to vital size, ignorance, it can be called a lot of things.

And if you don't need FFP, Mil reticle or turrets that can dial?

I've been hunting with a rifle since 1979 and I can't say I've needed any of those things yet.

 

[sndmn11]

What am I missing?

And if you don't need FFP, Mil reticle or turrets that can dial?

I've been hunting with a rifle since 1979 and I can't say I've needed any of those things yet.

Confucius say "man who lives in tunnel, thinks he sees all because he doesn't know what all there is to see"

 

[Macintosh]

 

[Reed104R]

The only advantage I have ever seen with 30mm tubes is extra adjustment.

 

[Newtosavage]

Confucius say "man who lives in tunnel, thinks he sees all because he doesn't know what all there is to see"

So you're saying I need FFP, Mil reticles and turrets? Please 'splain why. I'm listening.

 

[Newtosavage]

Here Macintosh, maybe this will help you.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Here Macintosh, maybe this will help you.

Where does being disingenuous in an argument/discussion factor in?

 

[Newtosavage]

My VX -2 sh*t the bed

So did you then go 30mm or just another 1" scope?

 

[Newtosavage]

Where does being disingenuous in an argument/discussion factor in?

I'm curious how you can determine people's motives.

If you have anything to add to the discussion about 1" vs. 30mm tubes, please do.

Otherwise you're just here to score points in column one.

 

[Dalen88]

this guy is the most augmentative person on this site i dont know why anyone even responds to him anymore...

 

[5MilesBack]

I've been hunting with a rifle since 1979 and I can't say I've needed any of those things yet.

Well, there you go. You're not missing anything then. Sometimes people are better off not knowing what they don't know.

 

[sndmn11]

So you're saying I need FFP, Mil reticles and turrets? Please 'splain why. I'm listening.

Only you know what need after determining that through your own experience(s).

What you are missing out on/lacking/foregoing/compromising (your original question) between 1" tubes and 30" tubes is those adjectives in my first post.

I have an older 1500 Ram. When I ask what I am missing out on with a 2023 diesel would be answered with a bunch of things to include better gas mileage, working ac/heat, lots of torque, and higher payments. That doesn't necessarily mean I need those things.

 

[SDHNTR]

Only you know what need after determining that through your own experience(s).
What you are missing out on/lacking/foregoing/compromising (your original question) between 1" tubes and 30" tubes is those adjectives in my first post.
I have an older 1500 Ram. When I ask what I am missing out on with a 2023 diesel would be answered with a bunch of things to include better gas mileage, working ac/heat, lots of torque, and higher payments. That doesn't necessarily mean I need those things.

 

[LongWayAround]

In general, people who say "I've been doing thing X since year Y blah blah blah," are not the pinnacle of knowledge.

 

[Newtosavage]

In general, people who say "I've been doing thing X since year Y blah blah blah," are not the pinnacle of knowledge.

And in general, those with nothing to contribute are often better off just scrolling by.

So rather than a passive-aggressive comment, how do you answer the original question? Have you switched to 30mm (or larger scopes) and if so, why?