.308 or 6.5 creedmoor

[5811]

My 6.5 and .308 are both Kimber Mtn Ascents.

I can't say I notice much of a difference in recoil between the 2.

41 grains of H4350 pushes the 143 ELD-X at 2850 out of the 6.5.

44.5 grains of Varget pushes the 168gr TTSX at 2669 out of the .308.

Now I've never done the math to put actual numbers to recoil, but they feel darn near the same if not identical to me. I consider recoil to be a non-issue in each case.

Using the previously posted saami free recoil calculator, for an 8 pound rifle, you are at 14.85 and 17 for the 6.5 and 308, respectively

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

My 6.5 and .308 are both Kimber Mtn Ascents.

I can't say I notice much of a difference in recoil between the 2.

41 grains of H4350 pushes the 143 ELD-X at 2850 out of the 6.5.

44.5 grains of Varget pushes the 168gr TTSX at 2669 out of the .308.

Now I've never done the math to put actual numbers to recoil, but they feel darn near the same if not identical to me. I consider recoil to be a non-issue in each case.

Approximately 2 pounds of extra recoil on the .308 assuming everything else is equal. (Bison Firearms Recoil Calc.)

 

[WV Mountaineer]

This wasn’t the comparison.

You just did declare a “name” directed at me above, my comment was across the board with nobody in particular being named. Sorry that struck your nerve so much. Mirrors are a great thing to look into every now and again. I need to do it more myself. My post wasn’t meant to be arrogant, just to state facts.

I don’t understand what you’re trying to convey here sorry.

Why is it when people say things in opposition on the internet, it turns into a pissing match? The theme of the thread has morphed from what do you think, to this is what you should think. Because of the defensive nature of people.



The OP asked a question. Which do you prefer. He didn’t ask ballistics. He didn’t say what is the best for long range. He received a variety of responses. All of them were based on the notion and circumstances of the responder.



No one is arguing ballistics, which shoots farther, etc…. It was a simple question. My answer is based on owning both, shooting both, but preferring a 30 caliber option. Why, because there is little if any perceived recoil difference between the two calibers.

It isn’t confusing.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

My 6.5 and .308 are both Kimber Mtn Ascents.

I can't say I notice much of a difference in recoil between the 2.

41 grains of H4350 pushes the 143 ELD-X at 2850 out of the 6.5.

44.5 grains of Varget pushes the 168gr TTSX at 2669 out of the .308.

Now I've never done the math to put actual numbers to recoil, but they feel darn near the same if not identical to me. I consider recoil to be a non-issue in each case.

With these numbers you’re down to around a 15% increase in recoil moving to the .308.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Why is it when people say things in opposition on the internet, it turns into a pissing match? The theme of the thread has morphed from what do you think, to this is what you should think. Because of the defensive nature of people.



The OP asked a question. Which do you prefer. He didn’t ask ballistics. He didn’t say what is the best for long range. He received a variety of responses. All of them were based on the notion and circumstances of the responder.

You seem to be the only one taking general comments personally in this thread.

No one is arguing ballistics, which shoots farther, etc…. It was a simple question. My answer is based on owning both, shooting both, but preferring a 30 caliber option. Why, because there is little if any perceived recoil difference between the two calibers.

It isn’t confusing.

He asked to compare two popular chamberings for a hunting gun. Both are a great choice. There are a few important things to consider which I mentioned in my first post in the thread.

Where we disagree is that you believe there it “little if any perceived recoil between the two cartridges”. The math simply says you are incorrect. Shooters of all skill levels when shooting not from a bench with a perfect rest also say you are incorrect based on impact rates when tested.

It isn’t confusing.

 

[peterk123]

Both are spectacular choices. My wife shoots the cm, I shoot the 308. She went three for three this year on deer. One shot each. They dropped on the spot. I had the same results with the 308. I took an elk last year with my gun. Also one shot. Recoil in a 308 is really a non issue. Especially if you do what I did, put a limbsaver recoil pad on it.

I'm not into the long range game. If I can't get within 300 yards I'm not shooting. So I'm not too worried about things like BC and drop at 650 yards. If it's blowing like hell, then I need to get closer. I guess I'm just not a very good shot so going much beyond 300 is a no go for me. And I shoot every week.

30 caliber is the most popular for a reason though. It just gets the job done. Not even a debate. But like I said, for someone like my wife, who is smaller in stature, the CM gets the job done as well. And it is a very accurate round. She can hit a 10 inch gong at 600 yards with that thing. My 308, a tikka t3x, is also dead nuts accurate. It's a tough call determining which is better.

Try to get your hands on both and shoot them. The one you feel the most comfortable with and shoot most confidently is the one that is best for you.

 

[prm]

The barrel on the .308 T3X superlite is 2” shorter than the 6.5 CM. I’d prefer the shorter barrel for general purpose hunting. More noise to condider. (Edit: nevermind. The 6.5 comes with either 22.4 or 24.3 according to Tikka website)