243 Win/6 CM and monos: Your experiences?

[Igloo]

Since Tikka has 1:8 twist 243 Win rifles and all, been thinking about jumping into one and seeing how they do for no other reason than funs sake (already have a 6.5 CM, which can go if the 243 is worth it)

For you guys with experience hunting with monos out there, what did you think?

 

[SloppyJ]

Following along just to hopefully see some pictures.

Are you stuck to monos due to regulations?

The TTSXs have a cult like following in 243. Never used one and don't have the desire to due to the other spectacular cup and core options. However, I've always wondered what an 80gr TTSX out of a 6 creed would do to a deer.

 

[handwerk]

Only used a couple times in .243 but the 95 Barnes LRX has been great, now we have a bunch loaded up for several 6 CM's so more to come.

 

[Igloo]

Following along just to hopefully see some pictures.

Are you stuck to monos due to regulations?

The TTSXs have a cult like following in 243. Never used one and don't have the desire to due to the other spectacular cup and core options. However, I've always wondered what an 80gr TTSX out of a 6 creed would do to a deer.

No, more just sympathy for avian scroungers. You can actually track how successful a moose season was here by checking lead levels in birds.

The 80gr TTSX looks like it goes FAST with a load of a good powder like StaBall. 95gr LRX looks like another good option too.

The 100gr TTSX from a 6.5mm kills well too, but small sample size at the moment.

 

[Igloo]

Only used a couple times in .243 but the 95 Barnes LRX has been great, now we have a bunch loaded up for several 6 CM's so more to come.

Would love to hear about your experiences with it...What game did you take, and what were the results like, if you don't mind me asking?

Besides meat in the freezer

 

[Deere_Man]

Two deer so far with a 243 Win, 1:10” twist M70 Featherweight shooting Barnes 85gr TSX. Both were dead within a step or two after the shot at or around 100 yards. Not nearly as bloodshot as a cup and core at similar distances, but plenty of damage shooting right behind the shoulder. Both seemed to just crumble after the shot.

 

[Long84]

I have used the 80gr Barnes TTSX loaded in their Vor-TX line of ammo. Took 2 does around 150 yds with Remington Model 7 chambered in .243.

First doe was broadside, shot through the ribs. She ran 25-30 yds with a quarter size exit hole.

Second doe was quartering away. Impact was in the near side ham. Bullet traveled through the ham, entered body cavity behind the diaphragm, continued forward and exited after clipping the off side lung. She ran a 200 yard semi circle before giving up.

I don't have any pictures but both deer were a mess internally.

 

[ZAK13]

My 243 likes the 80gr TTSX and puts deer and hogs down with ease, Hornady’s GMX which I believe has been replaced with the CX is also another great option. I use Superformance and push them to @ 3200fps.

 

[Ringbill27]

However, I've always wondered what an 80gr TTSX out of a 6 creed would do to a deer.

Curious because I don’t know the answer. What the case capacity is in a 6 creed?

I’d guess the 6creed and the 243win would throw 80ttsx the same, but I’ve really always assumed the 6creed was basically a fast twist 243. But I’ve never looked into whether the 6creed has more or less case cap. then the 243win.

Edited: went and did my own research by comparing the Barnes load data for the 95LRX for the 243 and 6creed. Barnes does not have data for the 80ttsx for the creed. It appears the creed can be loaded hotter the 243. If I had a creed I’d give the 80ttsx a go but the numbers for the LRX look pretty impressive as well.

 

[EdgeFan]

I shoot the 85TSX just over 3300fps out of my 6creed. Had kids shoot a couple deer with it. One dropped in its tracks the other didnt go 50yds. The only downside is distance limitation due to poor bc. I personally love the barnes. I shoot 168 out of my 28 nosler.


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[The Guide]

Ruger American Predator Gen 1 in 6CM shooting the factory loaded Barnes 95 LRX has been the most uneventful deer and antelope killing gun/cartridge combo we have used. My daughter and wife have taken several (maybe 10+) deer and antelope each with that rifle and each animal has either died in its tracks or ran in a circle and flopped. I would not hesitate to use that combo for any reason other than a big bear and all I would change would be the bullet to the 105 Berger or 108 ELDM since my rifle likes them both and those bullets have a larger permanent wound channel.

Jay

 

[wind gypsy]

Curious because I don’t know the answer. What the case capacity is in a 6 creed?

I’d guess the 6creed and the 243win would throw 80ttsx the same, but I’ve really always assumed the 6creed was basically a fast twist 243. But I’ve never looked into whether the 6creed has more or less case cap. then the 243win.

Edited: went and did my own research by comparing the Barnes load data for the 95LRX for the 243 and 6creed. Barnes does not have data for the 80ttsx for the creed. It appears the creed can be loaded hotter the 243. If I had a creed I’d give the 80ttsx a go but the numbers for the LRX look pretty impressive as well.

The creed family has slightly less case capacity than the 308 fam (260, 243) but the shorter cases and longer freebore result in a higher % of that capacity being useable at least at SAAMI COAL. Velocity capability with same bullets/pressures usually slightly favors the ‘08 fam cases but it’s close enough to be a wash for most intents and purposes.

 

[longrangelead]

Last fall a put together a 243 for a Washington Blacktail hunt. 85gr TSX BT @2800 from 16" barrel.
I hunt timber so shots are 150 yds or less, usually 100 or less.
Killed this buck with a shot to the shoulder as he turned and a second shot in the neck.

I've also killed a few deer w 95gr partition.
10 years ago, my wife and I used 6x45's w/85 TSX BT and killed a pile of deer and antelope out to 420 yds.
This year will be 6 ARC and 6x45AI w/ELDM's and 95gr NBT's.

About any 6mm is enough for game.

 

[The Guide]

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Last fall a put together a 243 for a Washington Blacktail hunt. 85gr TSX BT @2800 from 16" barrel.
I hunt timber so shots are 150 yds or less, usually 100 or less.
Killed this buck with a shot to the shoulder as he turned and a second shot in the neck.

I've also killed a few deer w 95gr partition.
10 years ago, my wife and I used 6x45's w/85 TSX BT and killed a pile of deer and antelope out to 420 yds.
This year will be 6 ARC and 6x45AI w/ELDM's and 95gr NBT's.

About any 6mm is enough for game.

More info on that stock? I'd love to put together something that compact.

Jay

 

[longrangelead]

More info on that stock? I'd love to put together something that compact.

Jay

chassis is Ultradyne 5, butt is MDT. The fully adjustable butt makes it heavy, 9lbs as pictured. a simple butt would be much lighter. Any AR folder works.

 

[Sacrvrrat72]

Would love to hear about your experiences with it...What game did you take, and what were the results like, if you don't mind me asking?

Besides meat in the freezer

Only one deer down with the LRX but it dropped straight down. Plenty of damage to heart. Impact velocity was 2300ish. I prefer lead but the LRX has been fine for me so far. Haven't tried DRT's but they are on the list once I start reloading.

 

[doc holiday13]

i have a 6x6.8. I get 2990 fps with 85 tsx. I usually put a round into the neck and its lights out. Although I've found the 70g Nosler Varminters work a little better since they're going 3250. Most of my shots are sub 150yards so BC is negligable.

 

[omicron1792]

If I had to use copper I would use CEB tipped raptor or Maximus, or HHT hammer.

 

[SloppyJ]

Anyone have any pictures of what these bullets are doing to these animals? I've only witnessed one animal being taken with a 150gr TTSX out of a .308 and it was a simultaneous fire between myself and my buddy. My 160 partition dropped mine cold and his ran off a bit but it wasn't ineffective by any means.

 

[Formidilosus]

Anyone have any pictures of what these bullets are doing to these animals? I've only witnessed one animal being taken with a 150gr TTSX out of a .308 and it was a simultaneous fire between myself and my buddy. My 160 partition dropped mine cold and his ran off a bit but it wasn't ineffective by any means.

85gr TSX’s all sub 100 yards.












The largest exit that I’ve seen from the 85 or 80gr (it’s not as large as it appears- about the size of a quarter-







I’ve shot quite a few deer with them, typical Barns sized wounds, however unlike others- exits were not common. I believe the first 5 deer, 4 caught the bullets. Runners were normally 80-120 yards, several took multiple vital shots after a bit of chasing. They kill fine if mono performance is what someone wants.