243 and nosler ballistic tips

[TaperPin]

Awwww….

The ballistic tip is such a vintage bullet it’s nice it’s getting some love. We started shooting these in the mid 1980s. Easily more antelope and deer have been taken with it by hand loaders in Wyoming than all others combined.

My 243s have taken all but one animal with Partitions, the other was a mono and those are better left for larger calibers. The Ballistic tip must not stabilize great or it would be made with a bigger boat tail in 100 gr. The chamfer on Partitions is almost half the size. In all cartridges, many reloaders have Ballistic tips as practice/antelope loads and Partitions or Accubonds for other hunting.

I’ve never seen a Ballistic tip bounce off of anything.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

I love t

Having recently rebarreled a couple rifles to 243 I have been reading everything I can on 243 bullets for deer and the 95 grain ballistic tips seem to be well loved and rarely anything bad ever said about them.

Seems to be the cheapest factory option for them is the Winchester silver tips?

I love the Winchester silver tips. We’ve dropped a bunch of deer with them, a big ole moose, and we’re going after black bears with them next spring.

 

[Steve O]

Having recently rebarreled a couple rifles to 243 I have been reading everything I can on 243 bullets for deer and the 95 grain ballistic tips seem to be well loved and rarely anything bad ever said about them.

Seems to be the cheapest factory option for them is the Winchester silver tips?

I’ve not sectioned them both but being an engineer and being part of mass production, it would make 100% sense to me that they are the same bullet with the “lubaloy” coating added. That’s how I would proceed. It would be an added cost and senseless for Nosler to run two setups for a perfect bullet to make another not as good.

 

[03mossy]

I’ve read it a few dozen times that they are the same bullet.

 

[TaperPin]

I’ve not sectioned them both but being an engineer and being part of mass production, it would make 100% sense to me that they are the same bullet with the “lubaloy” coating added. That’s how I would proceed. It would be an added cost and senseless for Nosler to run two setups for a perfect bullet to make another not as good.

If the viewer focuses on the shiney cut surface, it sure looks like they are identical. From a distance the black coating makes the jacket look thinner on the silver tips, but I don’t see that when zoomed in.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

And that shoulder that is at the very edge of the vitals, or not even covering them?

This is what’s always weird to me… It’s like folks haven’t actually paid attention when they are taking animals apart.

 

[ianpadron]

I actually cant think of anything MORE potent than a 95 NBT via .243 for your intended use...

You could shoot a bullet twice as big from a rifle with 4x the recoil and end up with a bear just as dead, your pick!

 

[medvedyt]

The 95g .243 BT is not like any other NBT. It was the pet project of their top ballistician, Gail Root, and he designed and refined it for himself and his pet 243 Winchester. It doesn’t matter what NBT you have experience with, none of them are designed the same as the .243 95g

It will work on ANY black bear just fine.

thank you for the hint. always wondered why a friend of us and his wife used only 243 win with that specific bullet for everything except bison du to legal issues: it worked for moose, sheep, goat, grizzly and black bears and caribou.

do you know if other bullets got the same work done on them by Root?

 

[Formidilosus]

This is what’s always weird to me… It’s like folks haven’t actually paid attention when they are taking animals apart.

It just shows how utterly clueless people are in general, and how the vast majority don’t notice what is right in front of them- “inattentional blindness” as it were.

The first time I opened an elk up I thought “that’s it? This is the magical creature everyone talks about?” Same for bear, same for moose. Nothing about mammals has shown me anything unusual- there is no bulletproof “shield” on hogs, “shoulders” of deer/elk/moose are so thin they are translucent, and all of them are narrow through the chest.

 

[Steve O]

thank you for the hint. always wondered why a friend of us and his wife used only 243 win with that specific bullet for everything except bison du to legal issues: it worked for moose, sheep, goat, grizzly and black bears and caribou.

do you know if other bullets got the same work done on them by Root?

I’m pretty sure the 120g 7mm Btip has the same design. Not 100% sure and did not write that one down to refer back to but am fairly certain. The 120 is definitely different than the other 7mm.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’m pretty sure the 120g 7mm Btip has the same design. Not 100% sure and did not write that one down to refer back to but am fairly certain. The 120 is definitely different than the other 7mm.

It’s not the same as the 6mm 95gr. Way more jacket, and produces much narrower wounds. The 120gr 7mm though having some mystique to it on the internet, is one that always underwhelmed me and those I personally know that used them. Pretty narrow wounds that resulted in a lot of runners- more akin to a good mono than a NBT. And, that’s kind of what is always said about it from the proponents- it penetrates deeply and doesn’t create a mess.


The 6mm 95gr NBT is unique in the lineup as it was specifically optimized for killing with a specific range of velocities- in this case the 243win.

 

[ZAK13]

5 inches of fat between the ribs and hide?

I have killed an almost 400lb bruin myself in Maine a few years back, when we skinned him, he had almost 3 inches of fat on him, the fat kind of had a purplish hue to it, due to the fact he ate so many blueberries. so yes, 5 inches of fat is definitely possible.

 

[ZAK13]

I would have no qualms using either the Nosler BT or a Barnes TTSX on a black bear. You should be fine with either.

 

[Rizzy]

For those of us that don't reload yet, how similar is the tipped cor-lokt to the 95 gr NBT?

 

[Steve O]

It’s not the same as the 6mm 95gr. Way more jacket, and produces much narrower wounds. The 120gr 7mm though having some mystique to it on the internet, is one that always underwhelmed me and those I personally know that used them. Pretty narrow wounds that resulted in a lot of runners- more akin to a good mono than a NBT. And, that’s kind of what is always said about it from the proponents- it penetrates deeply and doesn’t create a mess.


The 6mm 95gr NBT is unique in the lineup as it was specifically optimized for killing with a specific range of velocities- in this case the 243win.

Roger that. I knew there was something different about it. That makes sense.

 

[amassi]

This is what’s always weird to me… It’s like folks haven’t actually paid attention when they are taking animals apart.

Lots of buck in a truck hunters that use game processors are experts in animal shoulders


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[amassi]

For those of us that don't reload yet, how similar is the tipped cor-lokt to the 95 gr NBT?

Not at all
The TCL is close to or possibly a Hornady SST. They’re good bullets


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[Formidilosus]

For those of us that don't reload yet, how similar is the tipped cor-lokt to the 95 gr NBT?

The Tipped Core-lokt is an SST. The Winchester Supreme Baliistic Silvertip is a 95gr NBT.