.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[omicron1792]

I’m not completely comfortable with the distance I can shoot to from field positions on game now with the 223 velocity that I already have available.

Personally I have no need for more until I can shoot better.
So I’ll probably never need more.

I use for predator night hunting. So flat and fast is a win.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

So, ELD-M = TMK? Nope

88 ELD-M = 88 TMK ? Probably nope, we'll see


Aren't you supposed to be mathing all this out so we don't need to look at actual results any longer?

The bullets are equal diameter...so... (88 - 77) / 77 = (88*7000/.224^2 - 77*7000/.224^2) / 77*7000/.224^2

The former is just a lot quicker shorthand for someone that actually understands math... but also understands there are so many other variables in play that actual results will tell the story well, while "this times that divided by that times this other thing" will probably not.

Try harder

I see, you’re trying to find differences between tmk to eldm and tmk to tmk? So in eldm to tmk you’re saying the last 25 animals I killed averaging 11 yards recovery would be shorter had I been shooting a tmk instead? If so, how much shorter? Can you percent that for me with extra fancy math?

Hey man, split c-hairs all you like, if you think you can see a difference between em with same sd and impact velocity then that’s truly amazing lol. No wrong choice as most can live with eldm performance, didn’t realize there was a hidden war going on between them.

 

[Deere_Man]

I came to add that my group of shooters (myself and 2 other most of the time) have killed 60ish hogs so far this summer using 223's with thermals. From little shits to "hook it to the ranger and drag it out of the field" size. 99% of the time the first one shot in the group folds like a napkin and the runners don't go far after being hit. 77 grain hollow points are what we're shooting right now. We need to start taking death pictures again.

I've thought a good bit about building a bolt action 223 to have for my youngest son to get started on when he gets centerfire cartridges.

My brother, summer does not begin until June the 21st; you’ve still got all Summer long to shoot hogs.

 

[Thegman]

Dude...stop already...

I see, you’re trying to find differences between tmk to eldm and tmk to tmk?

I'm not trying to find anything. I'm waiting to see the kind of terminal performance the 88 TMK produces. Like I would with any new bullet.

So in eldm to tmk you’re saying the last 25 animals I killed averaging 11 yards recovery would be shorter had I been shooting a tmk instead? If so, how much shorter? Can you percent that for me with extra fancy math?

??? I'm not saying anything about your situation. It's irrelevant.

If you'll recall...I simply asked questions about the 88 TMK's performance.

For some unexplained reason, you felt the need to come up with a nonsensical "mathematic gobbleygook" dissertation on how to find what we'll see from the 88TMK and tell me I didn't need any more information. I'm not trying to find anything, calculate anything or predict anything. I'm waiting to see the kind of terminal performance the 88 TMK produces.

Hey man, split c-hairs all you like, if you think you can see a difference between em with same sd and impact velocity then that’s truly amazing lol. No wrong choice as most can live with eldm performance, didn’t realize there was a hidden war going on between them.

Well, then I guess those will "live with eldm performance". I will continue to look at the kind of terminal performance the 88 TMK produces. You apparently will continue to be bothered by that...???