.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[KHntr]

I have read hundreds of pages and did a search but can anyone comment on the 75Amax? Im out of the country and will be hunting withing a few days of coming home, not enough time for components to come in so I was going to run what I have which is the 75amax at 2850fps.

Edit: The other option is the 75gn Black Sabre, there are the only loaded heavies I have found in stock.

What do you want to know?
I crushed a lot of shoulders on deer and black bears over the last 10 years or so, out to 400+ yards. Blood trails were typically pretty light, but nothing ever went over 15 yards so it didn’t really matter. That said, I’m a dedicated shoulder shooter.

 

[Reddish]

I have read hundreds of pages and did a search but can anyone comment on the 75Amax? Im out of the country and will be hunting withing a few days of coming home, not enough time for components to come in so I was going to run what I have which is the 75amax at 2850fps.

Edit: The other option is the 75gn Black Sabre, there are the only loaded heavies I have found in stock.

Black Sabre is the 75gr A VMAX. I think there was mention of it somewhere before on here. It upsets quickly.

EDIT: In my head was thinking VMax when I read AMAX...sorry. Multi-tasking is a challenge....

 

[The Guide]

Black Sabre is the 75gr AMAX. I think there was mention of it somewhere before on here. It upsets quickly.

Showed up on my receipt as a VMAX not AMAX.

Jay

 

[The Guide]

Black Sabre is the 75gr AMAX. I think there was mention of it somewhere before on here. It upsets quickly.

Picture of my packing list here...

Jay

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

I'm not sure if these have been posted before & quite frankly, I'm not trawling through 390+ pages to find out. 😆 For those who're thinking or wondering why to pick the TMK over the TGK (the Gameking being a 'hunting bullet' after all.....) That massive jacket difference is why the MK is so...

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[Luvda208]

Black Sabre is the 75gr AMAX. I think there was mention of it somewhere before on here. It upsets quickly.

I have heard Amax and Vmax, I dont think hornady ever offered a 75Vmax but the front half of the bullet is almost identical to a 55gr vmax.

 

[Luvda208]

What do you want to know?
I crushed a lot of shoulders on deer and black bears over the last 10 years or so, out to 400+ yards. Blood trails were typically pretty light, but nothing ever went over 15 yards so it didn’t really matter. That said, I’m a dedicated shoulder shooter.

I have only crushed rocks with it, this will be the first year running the .223 and that is what I had loaded up already, unable to find 77tmk in stock anywhere as components or loaded ammo.

 

[Formidilosus]

Black Sabre is the 75gr AMAX. I think there was mention of it somewhere before on here. It upsets quickly.

Black Sabre is not a 75gr AMAX. It is a VMAX stretched to 75gr.

 

[wind gypsy]

I have only crushed rocks with it, this will be the first year running the .223 and that is what I had loaded up already, unable to find 77tmk in stock anywhere as components or loaded ammo.

Amax is the predecessor to ELDm. I'd go forth expecting the same type of terminal performance you would with a 73 or 75 ELDm.

 

[turbo406]

Black Sabre is not a 75gr AMAX. It is a VMAX stretched to 75gr.

Hey form just had a quick question on cleaning, do you every worry about a carbon ring building up? Or do you scrub the chamber still on rounds that carbon rings are prevalent?

 

[Formidilosus]

Hey form just had a quick question on cleaning, do you every worry about a carbon ring building up? Or do you scrub the chamber still on rounds that carbon rings are prevalent?

I do not own a cleaning rod.

 

[BradArnett]

I have read hundreds of pages and did a search but can anyone comment on the 75Amax? Im out of the country and will be hunting withing a few days of coming home, not enough time for components to come in so I was going to run what I have which is the 75amax at 2850fps.

Edit: The other option is the 75gn Black Sabre, there are the only loaded heavies I have found in stock.

I have shot a bunch of deer over the years with the 75amax from 223/223ai and 22-250/22-250ai. They work great.

 

[GiantGreg]

How does the hornady 75 BTHP compare to the 73 ELDM in terminal side?
I got. A lot of the hornady fr320..


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[eric1115]

I do moon a cleaning rod.

I'm now picturing the scene from Braveheart, butt it's part of a rifle cleaning and maintenance session at S2HU.

 

[Formidilosus]

I'm now picturing the scene from Braveheart, butt it's part of a rifle cleaning and maintenance session at S2HU.

Autocorrect sucks.

 

[ramblinman]

You aren’t going to convince me that a 73gr eld-m performs way different then a 75gr a max. Ahaura guys used 73gr to cull cham, goat, deer.

I doubt 75gr bthp will bounce off, but the 73gr has the same jacket thickness, meplat size and linotype as the 75gr eld-m and in real world it has a fairly obvious bc increase over the 75gr Bthp.. and the 75ax, eld-m is legendary on game.

 

[GiantGreg]

You aren’t going to convince me that a 73gr eld-m performs way different then a 75gr a max. Ahaura guys used 73gr to cull cham, goat, deer.

I doubt 75gr bthp will bounce off, but the 73gr has the same jacket thickness, meplat size and linotype as the 75gr eld-m and in real world it has a fairly obvious bc increase over the 75gr Bthp.. and the 75ax, eld-m is legendary on game.

Yea I was mostly concerned if they upset as consistently as the eldm line.


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[ramblinman]

Again, I doubt they bounce off.. but same atmospheres and assuming 2700fps at my current atmospheres.

75bthp hits it at 365 yards

The 73gr eld at 415.

And I’d not crowd the 1800fps line too close with factory ammo. Pretty common to see 50es easily.

 

[sierracharlie338]

How does the hornady 75 BTHP compare to the 73 ELDM in terminal side?
I got. A lot of the hornady fr320..


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Terminally not the same in my experience. Eld/Amax perform much more consistently than Hornady bthp. The bthp does have some supporters in this thread but if you had a choice between the 2 I’d go with the ELD.

 

[MEdude]

Autocorrect sucks.

Correction… Auto-incorrect stinks…

 

[NMJM]

Has anyone used Barnes 55gr TSX on medium/big game? What were the results? The factory loads group great out of my rifle.