.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Moosehunter]

Anyone loaded 80 grain eldx in 1/8 223?
Would they stabilize?
I know those 77's are the "one and done" but these look interesting
I know after market mag would be needed

 

[DJL2]

I'm guessing it was fragments that did it. It was caliber sized entrance and stuck in ribs/hide on the other side. I just wouldn't have shot behind the shoulder if I'd have known it would be that messy. I was just curious if it was common, but 2/2 same result for my friend and I.

Mr. Foster states/claims that this is due to rapid expansion of the chest/diaphragm followed by collapse creating a pressure differential that ruptured the rumen. The source I’m paraphrasing from is his 75 Amax on goats commentary from his website if you are inclined to look.

 

[Shraggs]

Because a 9mm "will blow their lungs out" according to the President....Joe

I’ve tuned him (joe) out this year so I didn’t know he said that. Thanks guys.

Joe, is so wise…

 

[Hoove]

Just don’t shoot an SMK from an AR with a pistol brace. Most likely knock the earth off it’s axis!

 

[Big_wals]

Only if you shoulder it

Just don’t shoot an SMK from an AR with a pistol brace. Most likely knock the earth off it’s axis!

 

[SouthPaw]

Anyone loaded 80 grain eldx in 1/8 223?
Would they stabilize?
I know those 77's are the "one and done" but these look interesting
I know after market mag would be needed

The 80g ELDM shoots fantastic, I'd assume the eld-x would too with the same form factor.

 

[BlackHillsShooter]

My how times have changed…

2019- “.223 calibers are way to small to kill reliably!!!”

2023- “77gr TMK’s cause too much damage”.


Haha.

150gr SST's out of a 30-06 can cause too much damage in a deer. On par with what my 77gr TMK did to this years deer. Seen it, through the scope this time.

This has been a really fun learning experience for me. And my old neck likes low to no recoil any more.

Maybe next week, a cow elk!

 

[mt terry d]

Because a 9mm "will blow there lungs out" according to the President....Joe

I quite watching the Clown Show a while ago so I hadn't heard that.

I do recall someone ( bernie Sanders?) saying "You don't need seven bullets to kill a deah!"

Obviously he's never seen me shoot.

................

Back to your previously scheduled program.

 

[Sandstrom]

After three unsuccessful days hunting for an elk (cow tag, and only saw bulls) with the 77 TMK’s, I decided to switch gears for the last evening and fill my turkey tag for thanksgiving Thanks to @Formidilosus advice on the TMK’s being to much for turkey I brought with some MK 262 mod 1-C in another mag. Both the black hills 77 TMK and black hills MK 262 mod 1-C hit at virtually the same poi at 100 yards and had virtual the same muzzle velocity. Worked like a champ!!

160 yards, shot from the creek bottom up at a bit of an angle. Entered right through the lower back and exited through the other side, lost about three bites of meat from the opposite side upper thigh area and a bit of wing meat.

After a nice brine it turned out great for thanksgiving dinner!!

First time the wife came with for a big game hunt, all in all we had an awesome time with tons of great memories!! She is already talking about plans for next years hunting

Ryan

 

[Drenalin]

Add turkeys to thread title?

 

[Formidilosus]

After three unsuccessful days hunting for an elk (cow tag, and only saw bulls) with the 77 TMK’s, I decided to switch gears for the last evening and fill my turkey tag for thanksgiving Thanks to @Formidilosus advice on the TMK’s being to much for turkey I brought with some MK 262 mod 1-C in another mag. Both the black hills 77 TMK and black hills MK 262 mod 1-C hit at virtually the same poi at 100 yards and had virtual the same muzzle velocity. Worked like a champ!!
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160 yards, shot from the creek bottom up at a bit of an angle. View attachment 634247Entered right through the lower back and exited through the other side, lost about three bites of meat from the opposite side upper thigh area and a bit of wing meat.
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After a nice brine it turned out great for thanksgiving dinner!!
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First time the wife came with for a big game hunt, all in all we had an awesome time with tons of great memories!! She is already talking about plans for next years hunting

Ryan

That’s great, and exactly what I do (77gr TMK/MK262 mags).

 

[Trapperkid]

finally got to try to tmk on a deer about a 40 yard shot 223 factory aac 77tmk with a ruger american ranch 16 inch barrel. Massive entrance crazy damage very small exit with a tiny blood trail although it wasn’t needed bc I watched her fall after a 40 yard death dash

 

[Pwb199]

Hopefully this hasn’t been asked too many times - but I have read through a lot of this thread and can’t really seem to find it.

1800 (ish) fps seems to be the minimum impact velocity that is accepted by the group, but do we have a maximum impact velocity that is recommended?

I’d love to buy a 223, but currently own a 22-250 that shoots the 77 TMK absolutely lights out, with a muzzle velocity of 3050.
If I encountered a <100 yard shot, would this be too fast and potentially too much damage? Or don’t even worry about it?

 

[Formidilosus]

Hopefully this hasn’t been asked too many times - but I have read through a lot of this thread and can’t really seem to find it.

1800 (ish) fps seems to be the minimum impact velocity that is accepted by the group, but do we have a maximum impact velocity that is recommended?

I’d love to buy a 223, but currently own a 22-250 that shoots the 77 TMK absolutely lights out, with a muzzle velocity of 3050.
If I encountered a <100 yard shot, would this be too fast and potentially too much damage? Or don’t even worry about it?

At least to 3,300fps impact, no issues so far.

 

[Lawnboi]

Hopefully this hasn’t been asked too many times - but I have read through a lot of this thread and can’t really seem to find it.

1800 (ish) fps seems to be the minimum impact velocity that is accepted by the group, but do we have a maximum impact velocity that is recommended?

I’d love to buy a 223, but currently own a 22-250 that shoots the 77 TMK absolutely lights out, with a muzzle velocity of 3050.
If I encountered a <100 yard shot, would this be too fast and potentially too much damage? Or don’t even worry about it?

Only 2 with the 22cm for me so far but that was one of my worries. After using it at closer ranges, all it seems to do going faster is make a more impressive wound.

 

[Pwb199]

Thank you! I’ll give it a run

 

[BjornF16]

Hopefully this hasn’t been asked too many times - but I have read through a lot of this thread and can’t really seem to find it.

1800 (ish) fps seems to be the minimum impact velocity that is accepted by the group, but do we have a maximum impact velocity that is recommended?

I’d love to buy a 223, but currently own a 22-250 that shoots the 77 TMK absolutely lights out, with a muzzle velocity of 3050.
If I encountered a <100 yard shot, would this be too fast and potentially too much damage? Or don’t even worry about it?

Don’t worry about it…and don’t expect an exit. Internal damage will be significant.

 

[BigThig09]

Solid Georgia buck fell to the green goblin this evening. I didn’t get any autopsy pics, but it worked to perfection again. 120 yards quartering away in a clearcut. Bullet entered at the midpoint of the body and was under the offside hide in the offside shoulder. Entrance in the chest cavity was about silver dollar sized. Lungs were soup, and the deer was coughing up huge clots of blood as you can see in one picture. The buck did run about 75 yards which is by far the longest run so far, but he stopped to look around and tipped over within sight. The Tikka .223/TMK combo is seriously the most fun gun I’ve ever hunted with!

 

[KHntr]

Another one for the 223AI/88 ELD m yesterday. Last day of deer season here in NE BC, buddy was up for the last couple days and the first day of his antlerless elk draw today.

Big bodied mule deer at 408 yards shooting down into the river bottom. Went in just behind the last rib, and was caught under the hide a few inches behind the offside shoulder. No blood trail but he only staggered 8 yards sideways before he went down. One lung was all goo, the other only damaged at the back of the lobe.

Recovered bullet 70.3 gr, so almost 80% retention.
No bones hit.

 

[rabbithuntr]

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