.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

FCCDerek

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Well dang, this has been an informative read. I've killed more deer with a 223 than any other caliber, even if they were cull kills on the base I was stationed on to keep them off the flightline. Still, none of them ran on me or were lost. And that was just with 55gr soft points. I'm having a 22CM built off of my Seekins PH2. It'll have an 18" Bartlein 1-7" twist barrel. Until I can get 77TMK's I'll be loading 80gr ELDM's in Alpha brass. Kinport Peak Rifles will be doing the work. I can't wait to try it out next deer season!
 

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Well dang, this has been an informative read. I've killed more deer with a 223 than any other caliber, even if they were cull kills on the base I was stationed on to keep them off the flightline. Still, none of them ran on me or were lost. And that was just with 55gr soft points. I'm having a 22CM built off of my Seekins PH2. It'll have an 18" Bartlein 1-7" twist barrel. Until I can get 77TMK's I'll be loading 80gr ELDM's in Alpha brass. Kinport Peak Rifles will be doing the work. I can't wait to try it out next deer season!
why not try 88 ELD-Ms?
 

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why not try 88 ELD-Ms?
That's what I'd meant to type. I'll be running 88's in it. I think with an 18" barrel I should be able to hit 3100fps pretty easily. I've got RL26 and H4350 in abundance for it. Should be a fun long range setup. I've got a Leupold MK5HD 3.6-18 on it now. Plenty of elevation adjustment in that.
 

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That's what I'd meant to type. I'll be running 88's in it. I think with an 18" barrel I should be able to hit 3100fps pretty easily. I've got RL26 and H4350 in abundance for it. Should be a fun long range setup. I've got a Leupold MK5HD 3.6-18 on it now. Plenty of elevation adjustment in that.
Might want to read through this and the other scope evaluations

 

FCCDerek

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Might want to read through this and the other scope evaluations

Doesn't matter to me what that says since I've already got the scope. I own 3 MK5HD's, two are 3.6-18's and one is a 5-25. They have performed flawlessly for me. 5-25 is on a 300PRC, one 3.6-18 is on my 280AI hunting rifle, and the other is on the 6.5 I'm having changed over to 22CM. I've had them for a few years and haven't seen any drift from them.
 

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Yes it is a 223 wylde 20” AR. 24.6 TAC loaded out to 2.290 with metal ASC mags. Muzzle velocity is 2810 ish.

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What muzzle device is that??

Edit: Nice rifle BTW!!
 

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What muzzle device is that??

Edit: Nice rifle BTW!!

It’s a BCA 20” heavy stainless fluted. It’s a tac driver for sure. Their spiral flash hider. It’s got a rave 140 trigger. I like the setup a lot. Thanks !


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Well last month I finally got to try out the rokslide special on a deer of my own. First things first I shot like crap and am not happy with how it all turned out. But I will try it again next season because I don’t feel satisfied with my results or my shooting so don’t feel it was a fair representation of the rifle/ammo.

Initial shot was 350 yards at a very steep uphill angle. Skimmed the bottom of his brisket and caught the offside leg. Second shot hit what I thought was just behind the shoulder while broadside and he dropped but got back to his feet moments later. I saw he was still trying to stand so I ran up the hill in an attempt to finish him quicker and get a more stable rest. The last shot was taken from 250 yards slightly quartered away and put him down for good approximately 10 minutes after the first shot was taken. After the fact I wish I’d have dug into the cavity of the deer to see what had happened cuz I just don’t see how he survived for 10 minutes after the second shot seeing where it entered. Anyways here’s a few pics without much science behind them.
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It’s a BCA 20” heavy stainless fluted. It’s a tac driver for sure. Their spiral flash hider. It’s got a rave 140 trigger. I like the setup a lot. Thanks !


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Thanks for the info! I've got a similar one and was looking for something simple besides an A2. That looks sharp!!
 

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Well last month I finally got to try out the rokslide special on a deer of my own. First things first I shot like crap and am not happy with how it all turned out. But I will try it again next season because I don’t feel satisfied with my results or my shooting so don’t feel it was a fair representation of the rifle/ammo.

Initial shot was 350 yards at a very steep uphill angle. Skimmed the bottom of his brisket and caught the offside leg. Second shot hit what I thought was just behind the shoulder while broadside and he dropped but got back to his feet moments later. I saw he was still trying to stand so I ran up the hill in an attempt to finish him quicker and get a more stable rest. The last shot was taken from 250 yards slightly quartered away and put him down for good approximately 10 minutes after the first shot was taken. After the fact I wish I’d have dug into the cavity of the deer to see what had happened cuz I just don’t see how he survived for 10 minutes after the second shot seeing where it entered. Anyways here’s a few pics without much science behind them.
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Where’s the exit on the second shot? With your description of the shot, there’s a chance that the second didn’t even enter the cavity and instead went between the scapula and ribs.


I can tell you just from the wounds visible that the wounds in the cavity were severe.
 

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Where’s the exit on the second shot? With your description of the shot, there’s a chance that the second didn’t even enter the cavity and instead went between the scapula and ribs.


I can tell you just from the wounds visible that the wounds in the cavity were severe.
I hadn’t even thought about that possibility being it was a broadside shot. I didn’t get the impression it had stayed outside the cavity but suppose it’s possible. If I recall correctly when I peeled the hide on the opposite side one was below and just back from the scapula and the other was a few inches above the knuckle in the blade.
 

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It’s a BCA 20” heavy stainless fluted. It’s a tac driver for sure. Their spiral flash hider. It’s got a rave 140 trigger. I like the setup a lot. Thanks !


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I just built up a rifle using one of their side charging uppers. Really like the side charge, I think especially for hunting I will prefer it.
 

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Just loaded up some 69grain tmks for a CZ. Wanted to go 77 but it’s a 1:9 twist. Can’t wait to see how they do and glad to see someone else keeping this thread alive.
How did these work out (sorry if I missed this update somewhere... I'm only on page 17 of 124 reading through this thread). I also have a CZ. Is there an easy way to tell what your twist is? I've heard that some of the CZ's are 1:9 and some are 1:12.
 
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