.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Thegman]

2 77TMK’s between the shoulders at 100 yards is a bit brutal.View attachment 771877View attachment 771878

Why did you shoot it twice? Did it need a follow-up, or? Just wondering about the details.

 

[tikkashooter88]

Taking my newly put together Tikka 223 Roughtech Ranch on a deer hunting trip this weekend. I'm really late putting this together and don't have a lot of ammo for it. I have 30 rnds of Norma Golden Target 77gr and 20 rounds of Sig Marksman 77gr OTM. It shoots the Sig lights out (sub moa 7 rnd 100 yards shooting in a hurry) so I'm leaning towards that.

Would terminal performance vary much between the two bullets sub 400 yards?

 

[Formidilosus]

Taking my newly put together Tikka 223 Roughtech Ranch on a deer hunting trip this weekend. I'm really late putting this together and don't have a lot of ammo for it. I have 30 rnds of Norma Golden Target 77gr and 20 rounds of Sig Marksman 77gr OTM. It shoots the Sig lights out (sub moa 7 rnd 100 yards shooting in a hurry) so I'm leaning towards that.

Would terminal performance vary much between the two bullets sub 400 yards?

Neither one of those. They will kill, but perforce is erratic. Find Hornady 73gr ELD-M match ammo.

 

[tikkashooter88]

Neither one of those. They will kill, but perforce is erratic. Find Hornady 73gr ELD-M match ammo.

Roger that.

Thank you!

 

[tikkashooter88]

Neither one of those. They will kill, but perforce is erratic. Find Hornady 73gr ELD-M match ammo.

Found some that I'll pick up this afternoon! What muzzle velocity should I expect out of a 16in barrel. Just need a place to start for the ballistic calculator before truing. Hornady says 2790 on the box.

 

[Taudisio]

Found some that I'll pick up this afternoon! What muzzle velocity should I expect out of a 16in barrel. Just need a place to start for the ballistic calculator before truing. Hornady says 2790 on the box.

25fps per inch at 8” is a start. Subtract 200fps should be close enough.

 

[MEwaters]

I like taking out the running gear. That said 30yrds its getting a round in the neck

Isn’t that knowingly giving up a lot of meat?
And with a neck shot is there higher risk of error? Not hitting the trachea, artery, or spine and just a large chunk of flesh?

 

[The Guide]

Found some that I'll pick up this afternoon! What muzzle velocity should I expect out of a 16in barrel. Just need a place to start for the ballistic calculator before truing. Hornady says 2790 on the box.

I have a 16" Ruger American Ranch that I get 2534 fps out of the factory Hornady 73gr ELDM ammo.

Jay

 

[WI-Carcosa]

Thank you all for the great info here. Finally took my tikka stainless 223 to the range. 16.5” barrel chopped with banish backcountry on it. What a riot to shoot I wish I had one of these growing up rather than getting rocked by un braked in suppressed 30 cals to practice as a kid (built character or whatever I guess).
I tried a number of factory rounds but the first few I needed to work on form so the data is trash. I got my stuff figured out for the aac black sabres and the tmks. Those shoot great for the price.

AAC 77 tmk: 2659fps avg, .9 moa
AAC 75 black Sabre: 2677 fps avg, 1.39 moa

 

[Tahr]

Why did you shoot it twice? Did it need a follow-up, or? Just wondering about the details.

The first shot dropped it instantly but it was thrashing so I gave it a quick follow up. The angle and slope made the top of the shoulder shot the only one available. I was in a sitting position.

 

[Hoosker Doo]

The easy button.

Jay

200 Round Case - 223 Rem 73 Grain ELD Match Hornady Match Ammo - 80269 | SGAmmo.com

200 Round Case of 223 Rem 73 Grain ELD Match Hornady Match Ammo For Sale SKU# 8026910 Boxes per CaseMuzzle Velocity 2790 FPS

www.sgammo.com

You got me with that one. Thanks for the easy button haha. 200 inbound

 

[primarchtimmy]

PSA has 77 TMK back in stock. Picked up a 1000. Also 8 shot first 4 was zeroing it in with the 77. Second 4 was the grouping at 100. The 4 grouping was done under 20 seconds per shot. I would like to mention I had to rezero from 75 black tip to 77 TMK. Shooting out of a 20in wyde Ar-15. At 300 was sitting at 3 moa with a 3 shot grouping you see at the picture. I just point and aim didn't account for drop. I was impressed with ACC. I wasn't so much with 75 Sabre but could be me though, 300 yards with 10 mph NE winds shooting from the South. I'm not a good shooter but I was having trouble with Sabre as you can see. I was aiming at the bolt head.

 

[The Guide]

targetsports is $22/box right now...

That is the 75gr BTHP not the 73gr ELDM.

Jay

 

[primarchtimmy]

For the sake of arguement... at what distance does a .223 create a wound equivalent to an arrow wound, assuming an appropriate bullet is used? I doubt I could shoot that far reliably.

Late to th Cult of 77 TMk

 

[TCUHunter34]

PSA has 77 TMK back in stock. Picked up a 1000. Also 8 shot first 4 was zeroing it in with the 77. Second 4 was the grouping at 100. The 4 grouping was done under 20 seconds per shot. I would like to mention I had to rezero from 75 black tip to 77 TMK. Shooting out of a 20in wyde Ar-15. At 300 was sitting at 3 moa with a 3 shot grouping you see at the picture. I just point and aim didn't account for drop. I was impressed with ACC. I wasn't so much with 75 Sabre but could be me though, 300 yards with 10 mph NE winds shooting from the South. I'm not a good shooter but I was having trouble with Sabre as you can see. I was aiming at the bolt head.

Are you all shooting the 556 in a 223 REM barrel?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-tmk-20rd-box-ammunition.html

 

[NSI]

Are you all shooting the 556 in a 223 REM barrel?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-tmk-20rd-box-ammunition.html

Yes. That AAC TMK stuff shoots 1.2-1.3 for me. Abysmal extreme spread, which seems not to matter.

-J

 

[primarchtimmy]

Are you all shooting the 556 in a 223 REM barrel?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-tmk-20rd-box-ammunition.html

Yes, this is what I got and that's the ammo I use.

Faxon Match Series 20" Heavy Fluted, .223 Wylde, Rifle-Length, 416-R Stainless QPQ Nitride, 5R, Nickel Teflon Extension AR-15 Barrel

This 20 inch .223 Wylde fluted barrel is crafted in house from 416-R stainless steel, 5R rifled, and given a salt bath nitride finish for superior performance.

faxonfirearms.com

 

[The Guide]

Hey its been a long day

But that is right about what I have been paying for that ammo

Ya, I've found it from $1.35 to $1.10 each with the cheaper ammo shipped. Wish more places had it locally but not many do.

Jay

 

[Tahr]

150 yards with 77 TMK.

 

[77TMK]

Late to th Cult of 77 TMk

Unfortunately they are using 77 SMK which is incredibly unreliable for fragmenting below even 2200 FPS. Past 200 yards from even an 18” barrel, it’s going to icepick often and almost certainly once past 300. Great target bullet, crappy at everything else. Mystified because it’s a tad better than the M855 junk it was paired with for military use.