.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Shō[t]gun]

Speaking of slow-twist-rate guns, my dad has an excellent shooting CZ 527 in .222, I think the twist rate is 1-12 or 1-14. Is there any experience with decent medium game bullets that would stabilize? It wouldn’t be a deer gun but something that would pull double duty on chicken predators and hogs, with maybe some close range opportunistic deer thrown in.

I’ve had good results with 55gr ballistic tips out of my 1/14 22-250. A couple javelina and deer went lights out before they hit the ground. I’d honestly prefer the slower velocity of the 222 for less blood shot meat.

 

[Benjblt]

There plenty of short bullets that stabilize from 1-12” twists and kill deer fine. 55r Speer Gold Dots are probably the easiest choice. However, 62gr Gold Dot or Federal Fusions might as well. 64gr Nosler Bonded Solid Base will, and it’s a very good bullet at higher impact velocities.

As well, you can certainly kill deer with 45-55gr varmint bullets. Put them in the ribs and they die without fuss.

Got it. I'm looking for less blood shot so that Speer Gold Dot might be the ticket. Is a mono metal a bad idea? Like Barnes?

 

[Formidilosus]

Got it. I'm looking for less blood shot so that Speer Gold Dot might be the ticket. Is a mono metal a bad idea? Like Barnes?

Oh no, Gold Dot creates a mess. 50gr Barnes is what you want if you want to limit tissue damage. As long as you understand it isn’t going to do what you see/read in this thread, you ll be good. It kills fine, but not like the heavy fragmenting bullets.

 

[Benjblt]

Oh no, Gold Dot creates a mess. 50gr Barnes is what you want if you want to limit tissue damage. As long as you understand it isn’t going to do what you see/read in this thread, you ll be good. It kills fine, but not like the heavy fragmenting bullets.

Makes sense and what I figured.

 

[RockAndSage]

Oh no, Gold Dot creates a mess. 50gr Barnes is what you want if you want to limit tissue damage. As long as you understand it isn’t going to do what you see/read in this thread, you ll be good. It kills fine, but not like the heavy fragmenting bullets.

Why 50gr? What would the expected differences be between that and say, 70gr tsx?

 

[Shō[t]gun]

Why 50gr? What would the expected differences be between that and say, 70gr tsx?

He has a slow twist rate.

 

[Formidilosus]

Why 50gr? What would the expected differences be between that and say, 70gr tsx?

Hitting the target sideways?


He has a 1-12” or 1-14” twist.

 

[RockAndSage]

Hitting the target sideways?


He has a 1-12” or 1-14” twist.

Ah, missed that part.

 

[ianpadron]

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[Shō[t]gun]

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@Unknown Munitions, any chance for a Howa mini rokstock?

 

[Formidilosus]

@Unknown Munitions, any chance for a Howa mini rokstock?

Yes.

 

[Tahr]

I ended up ordering the 69 gr TMK. So I'm doubting that will shoot well. I do have some 52 grain ELDM's so maybe they would work?

I've lung, shoulder and neck shot deer out to 250 yds using the 52ELDM. Efective. Lots of blood shot.

 

[Chris_in_Idaho]

@Tahr
How do you like that Savage LWH?

 

[andersonjk4]

@Unknown Munitions, any chance for a Howa mini rokstock?

Yes.

Just ordered that Howa Mini barreled action in .223 from Brownells. It would be awesome to be able to get a Rokstok for it.

 

[Tahr]

@Tahr
How do you like that Savage LWH?

Its great. That original 1:9 twist barrel wore out and is now replaced by a stainless fluted 1:8.The trigger sear wore down and out of adjustment so it now sports a Timney. Both very good improvements but the original rifle was very accurate and nice to use. I like it a lot.
I neck shot this at 230 yards this evening using a 60 grain Hammer Hunter (shock horror ).

 

[wowzers]

Yes

What’s the timeline this? Those barreled mini actions for half the price are pretty tempting.

 

[Formidilosus]

What’s the timeline this? Those barreled mini actions for half the price are pretty tempting.

I would posit next year.

 

[wowzers]

Copy, thanks. I will probably just stick to the Tikka then. Slowly acquiring parts and it’s down to the action and stock. Chris’ presentation at HAHA has me sold on the RokStock. Going to be different for someone that hasn’t shot an elk at over 75yds in many years.

 

[Dbevans]

Another one. Coastal brown bear one shot at 80 yards. Thats the blood trail by its head. Dropped in its tracks hornady fmj. The entry and exit wound was a pencil hole straight through. Shoulder/lung/gut shot on the run

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[kkp005]

Another one. Coastal brown bear one shot at 80 yards. Thats the blood trail by its head. Dropped in its tracks hornady fmj. The entry and exit wound was a pencil hole straight through. Shoulder/lung/gut shot on the run

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Nice !