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I don’t think it’s worth arguing about, it’s suspicious 4th hand info at best, and assume a lazy attempt to stir the pot. Even the screen name “bull respecter” is suspicious in context
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I agree and don’t want a brigade over there. It’s wild to get used to the meticulous stuff posted here and contrast it with what the truth would be if everyone got to vote on it.I don’t think it’s worth arguing about, it’s suspicious 4th hand info at best, and assume a lazy attempt to stir the pot. Even the screen name “elk respecter” is suspicious in context
What are you referring to with your “yeah, there’s a few of these” statement?Yeah there’s a few of these. Though TBF it’s more calls to ban hunting generally or people arguing about whether green tipped .223 ammunition even exists
Man, I really signaled my intent poorly. I meant that I had found a few highly negative comments referring to this thread as if it were somehow responsible for this wounded animal. Sounds stupid to me, but apparently not to anyone else offering comment.What are you referring to with your “yeah, there’s a few of these” statement?
Silly.
Have you ever shot a big game animal with a .223 inside of 450yds with a Black Hills factory 77TMK?
The pseudonymous OP and a Montana FWP biologist were cutting it up in the field and found an encysted polymer tip and bullet fragments that gave them the impression of being from a .224 caliber bullet. OP acknowledged that this was speculative and that a bigger gun wouldn't have helped this situation.I'm confused, who necropsied the dead elk?
Was a green tip just magically laying on the surface?
Or is it just RS is so popular someone threw that idea out there and it caught on?
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A link to the actual report would be helpful. I didn't see anything mentioning RS or a Montana FWP biologist in my google search.The pseudonymous OP and a Montana FWP biologist were cutting it up in the field and found an encysted polymer tip and bullet fragments that gave them the impression of being from a .224 caliber bullet. OP acknowledged that this was speculative and that a bigger gun wouldn't have helped this situation.
So:
Furious audience latches onto the speculative comment about caliber, and Rokslide gets a few mentions as bureau of misinformation. Occasional contrarian meets line-in-the-sand moral conviction about a few hundredths of an inch of bullet diameter. Why is this intensity of feeling reserved for the most trivial distinctions?
Everything is speculation at best, there are zero facts presented. Apparently the elk had been limping around for a few months, then suddenly dropped 400 pounds and collapsed out of the blue. According to theFound this story today. Has the links to OP on the app formerly known as Twitter
Seeing I don’t have that app, I can’t see what the comments were.
Limping Bull Elk Mysteriously Dies, They Cut Open Lump in Its Thigh and Find a Telling Piece of Green Plastic
A wildlife aficionado on social media delivered a serious lesson that outdoors enthusiasts and hunters need to take to heartijr.com
Thanks for looking elsewhere. Shame to see it get secondary distributionEverything is speculation at best, there are zero facts presented. Apparently the elk had been limping around for a few months, then suddenly dropped 400 pounds and collapsed out of the blue. According to theexpert wildlife biologistTwitter user, the entire femur is gone but a green polymer tip and "bullet fragments of a 5.56 round" magically pop out of the middle of the mass. The article on ijr just references the exact same article on Western Journal, which is just a clickbait aggregation of Twitter posts from a single account. No links to anything from Montana FWP or any other corroborating evidence. The author (Warner Todd Huston) appears to be a semi-professional editorial writer from Chicago. Long on opinions, short on facts, but sensationalism sells and that "article" is currently the top story for Western Journal today.
For all I know there could be an ongoing investigation and forthcoming report. If it reports that some .30 cal bullet was actually in there, the original poster might even update the thread with a correction. Kinda sucks though that any such correction's influence would amount to a rounding error compared to the original ~8 million views.A link to the actual report would be helpful. I didn't see anything mentioning RS or a Montana FWP biologist in my google search.
Wasilla and Anchorage sportsmans often have the Hornady 73eldm load. Alaska Ammo hasn't had any in a while but may be worth a call.Where are people getting loaded ammo from? Anything in AK? I’ll be headed to L48 in a couple weeks so I can ship to where I’m going and fly home with it too if anywhere has it ready to ship.
Headed out west wolf hunting in April on snow machine. Talked to my hunting buddy last night and he already saw bear tracks while flying this weekend. Don’t want to carry two rifles and plan to bring an AR w/ a 16” 1:8 for our primary target. If I can find some pills, I’ll test this theory on Brown Bears inside 300 yds if the opportunity arises. But I do not load and will be too busy to learn to load my own in the given time, so does anyone have an easy button?
Less consistent terminally yes. I've found them to be very un-finicky bullets in terms of consistently shooting well with a variety of powders, charges, rifles, etc.I haven't seen the 73 ELDM load. I am in a similar situation. I'd love to send some to family in the lower 48 and pick it up later.
I've seen open tipped Sierra loads but if I recall they are less consistent right?
aeammo dot com has 50 ct and larger boxes of Black Hills listed as in stock.Where are people getting loaded ammo from? Anything in AK? I’ll be headed to L48 in a couple weeks so I can ship to where I’m going and fly home with it too if anywhere has it ready to ship.
Headed out west wolf hunting in April on snow machine. Talked to my hunting buddy last night and he already saw bear tracks while flying this weekend. Don’t want to carry two rifles and plan to bring an AR w/ a 16” 1:8 for our primary target. If I can find some pills, I’ll test this theory on Brown Bears inside 300 yds if the opportunity arises. But I do not load and will be too busy to learn to load my own in the given time, so does anyone have an easy button?