.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[swavescatter]

ahhh thanks for running the numbers for me on that... so does seem 22-250 would be value-add vs 223.

Trade-off is factory ammo availability and/or brass, and barrel life.

In thinking about going 22-250, it makes more sense to me to just go 22 Creedmoor for brass availability. I think some of the factory 22-250 barrels are not fast twist so you'd have to rebarrel anyway...

 

[fwafwow]

I found (I believe based on a post in this thread, but I can’t seem to find it) some Black Hills 5.56 77gr TMK for $1.32 per round (before taxes or shipping). For those who buy manufactured ammo, how does this compare to historic 77 TMK prices? It's less than I recently paid for 500 of the same 77gr BH, and since I presently don't need more, I'm trying to convince myself to hold off...

 

[Drenalin]

I found (I believe based on a post in this thread, but I can’t seem to find it) some Black Hills 5.56 77gr TMK for $1.32 per round (before taxes or shipping). For those who buy manufactured ammo, how does this compare to historic 77 TMK prices? It's less than I recently paid for 500 of the same 77gr BH, and since I presently don't need more, I'm trying to convince myself to hold off...

When you do need them, they won't be there.

 

[Billy Goat]

ahhh thanks for running the numbers for me on that... so does seem 22-250 would be value-add vs 223.

I thought I would go 223ai, but ended up deciding against it. 450 covers 98% of my hunting, I can of course shoot further, but I don't need 500 yards for hunting in most conditions.

You won't find factory ammo options, so you are forced to reload. Not terrible, but I think I'd consider different cartridges. 22 arc, 22 Creedmoor come to mind.


The 223 option is nice for cheap ammo, relatively easy to get.

 

[Pharmseller]

75 ELDM started at 2915 gives me 1800+ just a hair past 700, which exceeds my skill.




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[Hunter609]

75 ELDM started at 2915 gives me 1800+ just a hair past 700, which exceeds my skill.




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What length barrel?

 

[Pharmseller]

What length barrel?

24”

Using .230 G7 bc at 4000’ elevation.

Tikka Varmint.




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[fwafwow]

When you do need them, they won't be there.

Suck it! You made me pull the trigger.

 

[Pharmseller]

What length barrel?

You might want to look at 75 gr ELDM for that new Tikka. Much more available and lots cheaper. Form thinks it’s comparable in performance to the 77 TMK, just with less penetration.

I‘m using 23.5 gr Benchmark loading just touching the lands, it’s max so work up.




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[Hunter609]

You might want to look at 75 gr ELDM for that new Tikka. Much more available and lots cheaper. Form thinks it’s comparable in performance to the 77 TMK, just with less penetration.

I‘m using 23.5 gr Benchmark loading just touching the lands, it’s max so work up.

I bought a box, yesterday to load up. I also have 2 boxes of black hills tmks showing up tomorrow.

 

[280Ackley]

You will have a tough time getting an order placed with these people.

I had no issues at all. They were great to deal with.

 

[fwafwow]

I had no issues at all. They were great to deal with.

Ditto

 

[KHNC]

I had no issues at all. They were great to deal with.

Well damn, thats amazing. I tried multiple times and kept having error messages. Then I tried to call multiple times with no replies. Stuck buying Black hills. $

Edit: Just tried again to buy two more boxes . Same error issues at checkout. Not sure what it is, but im done trying with them. Glad you got it to work. I have my BH at least. Will take me a while to shoot thru all fiddy anyway. I wont be just random target shooting with 77 TMK.

 

[mt terry d]

since I presently don't need more, I'm trying to convince myself to hold off...

Dude, really? !

 

[swavescatter]

I just ordered a bunch more Black Hills 5.56 TMK's because they shoot so well out of my Tikka. And they come in Lake City Brass which is unobtanium (though crimped).

How do the Stand 1 Armory 223 TMK's stack up in terms of velocity and accuracy in a Tikka for those who have shot both?

Edit - I see someone posted that they were comparable in terms of accuracy, but still curious on velocity.

 

[fwafwow]

Well damn, thats amazing. I tried multiple times and kept having error messages. Then I tried to call multiple times with no replies. Stuck buying Black hills. $

Edit: Just tried again to buy two more boxes . Same error issues at checkout. Not sure what it is, but im done trying with them. Glad you got it to work. I have my BH at least. Will take me a will to shoot thru all fiddy anyway. I wont be just random target shooting with 77 TMK.

You got me curious because my prior experience (Nov of last year) was easy (although at a lower price). I think they are having website certificate authenticity problems. I think their current price of $1.70 per (before shipping and taxes) is significantly than what I paid last year, and more than what I just paid for BH ($1.37 - total).

 

[swavescatter]

Yeah - no go on the Stand 1 website checkout for me either. Giving up and sticking with BHA for now.

 

[Nomosendero]

I had no issues at all. They were great to deal with.

Same here!

 

[eric1115]

In stock, good price, 100% GTG seller

Black Hills 5.56 77 Gr TMK Ammunition

Black Hills TMK 5.56 77 Gr. Sierra Ammo 77 Gr. TMK Velocity: 2750 FPS 50ct box The products offered for sale on this page can expose you to chemicals, including Lead, which are known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. For...

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[fwafwow]

In stock, good price, 100% GTG seller

Black Hills 5.56 77 Gr TMK Ammunition

Black Hills TMK 5.56 77 Gr. Sierra Ammo 77 Gr. TMK Velocity: 2750 FPS 50ct box The products offered for sale on this page can expose you to chemicals, including Lead, which are known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. For...

www.creedmoorsports.com

I was close to going with them, but found this price was a bit better in total:

500 round Case Black Hills Ammunition Factory New D556N19 - 5.56 NATO 77 Grain TMK Tipped MatchKing - Free Shipping!

500 round Case Black Hills Ammunition Factory New D556N19 - 5.56 NATO 77 Grain TMK Tipped MatchKing

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