.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[BCsteve]

You guys can’t even have pistols, why are they sending something so deadly up there now

Surprised 77tmk isn’t on the list

Our government hasn't read this thread yet, they think the .223 is only good for gophers so it can't be that dangerous.

 

[BCsteve]

Lol... yup. Seeing as how I'm in Canada too I was wondering as to the establishment that might have some more of them...

Nowhere specifically. The last two were fron Nechako Outdoors. I have the "notify me when in stock" at a few different places. You just have to be quick!

 

[woods89]

Couple data points on the 69 gr TMK.View attachment 474114
Entry
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Exit
View attachment 474117
Shot was 15 yds, muzzle velocity of 2885. Chest cavity was wrecked, diaphragm was breached. She went 80 yds or so, but most of that was sort of crashing down a steep slope.

And this guy
View attachment 474119View attachment 474122
This shot was 70 yds or so. Deer was slightly quartering away. It looked like a couple fragments may have exited at the point of the shoulder, but no real exit hole. Chest cavity was wrecked. He went 70-80 yds.

@Fartrell Cluggins

 

[Moose83]

Nowhere specifically. The last two were fron Nechako Outdoors. I have the "notify me when in stock" at a few different places. You just have to be quick!

Cool... thanks! I think I actually got the last box Nechako had in stock

 

[280Ackley]

6.5 Grendel- 107gr or 130gr TMK, or 123gr Hornady ELD-M.

300BO- don’t would be my suggestion. However, 125gr TMK or Nosler Ballistic Tip.

What do you think about the 100gr ELD-M in the Grendel?

 

[BryanL]

This is seriously one of the best threads I have read on any forum. The only other one that is close is the one on AFCOM by the Battlefield Las Vegas owner (Ron) about what works and doesn’t work under their facility conditions (full auto fire and close to 30k rounds in each AR per month).

For those with a tikka, any advantage to a Stainless vs Blued? I have a blued and it showed signs of some spot surface rust almost immediately in this Oregon coast range hunting season. Going to try to track down a stainless option if I can but curious if anyone has seen any more able differences.

 

[Pharmseller]

There are a lot of very dead elk that were shot with the 7-08. If you are good with it to 450 yards and practice with it more than the others, my suggestion would be to keep using it. I have killed a pile of animals with the 139 grain SSTs, however none of them were elk. That being said, I can confidently say that if I was in the woods with my 7-08 and 139 grain SSTs I would not hesitate to shoot an elk.

I’ve killed elk with a 7mm-08, and seen elk get killed with a 7mm-08. It’s my primary shootin’ iron.




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[HandgunHTR]

For those with a tikka, any advantage to a Stainless vs Blued? I have a blued and it showed signs of some spot surface rust almost immediately in this Oregon coast range hunting season. Going to try to track down a stainless option if I can but curious if anyone has seen any more able differences.

I don’t really think there is an advantage if you already have a blued version. If you are concerned, spend the $150 and have the one you own cerakoted.

Unless, of course, you just want to buy another gun.

 

[Formidilosus]

Elk, all with 223/77gr TMK-


633 yards, 1,515fps impact, quartering away in the neck-




430 yards, quartering, lung, liver, stomach and caught in exit side, 1,816fps impact-


Same elk, moved to 402 yards, raking shot, exit though femur and hindquarter, 1,863fps impact-




555 yards, qaurtering, rib, liver, lung, heart, 1,760fps impact-

Entrance-



Caught in heart-

 

[BLJ]

Caught in heart-
View attachment 488013

For the win. That is awesome.

 

[wayno945]

That's awesome. What platform rifle are you using? AR or bolt?

 

[wyo]

Elk, all with 223/77gr TMK-


633 yards, 1,515fps impact, quartering away in the neck-
View attachment 488008



430 yards, quartering, lung, liver, stomach and caught in exit side, 1,816fps impact-
View attachment 488009

Same elk, moved to 402 yards, raking shot, exit though femur and hindquarter, 1,863fps impact-
View attachment 488010



555 yards, qaurtering, rib, liver, lung, heart, 1,760fps impact-

Entrance-
View attachment 488012


Caught in heart-
View attachment 488013

Those are some pokes with that little varmint caliber!
Great autopsy photos, interesting to see the amount of fragmentation/deformation at such low impact velocities. I certainly appreciate this thread and its contribution to science. In fact, I like it a whole bunch.

 

[Formidilosus]

That's awesome. What platform rifle are you using? AR or bolt?

Both.

Those are some pokes with that little varmint caliber!
Great autopsy photos, interesting to see the amount of fragmentation/deformation at such low impact velocities. I certainly appreciate this thread and its contribution to science. In fact, I like it a whole bunch.

It’s almost like you can design a bullet to kill well for any caliber…

 

[N2TRKYS]

Any word on where to purchase these bullets(TMKs)?

 

[KClark]

It’s almost like you can design a bullet to kill well for any caliber…

May be if there was a reason to design a bullet specifically for damage to flesh and bone, it would only need a cannelure to be the perfect......oh wait!

 

[ARK_Ginger]

Does anyone have any experience using the Nosler RDF 70 or 77gr in game?

 

[Jake Leibke]

So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?

 

[Jimbee]

I've had good luck. I bought 1000 77tmk and so far a few of the tips are wonky. I bought 500 108gr ELD-M and they maybe aren't as shiny as normal

So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?

 

[Floridave]

So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?

I got a couple hundred and they’ve worked well for me.


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[Formidilosus]