.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Taudisio]

I believe my ASC stainless steel 20 rounders measure 2.310". But I've also read the lip in the interior can peel up and decrease the COAL. I have some for 73gr ELDM and I winder them for seating out 75 gr ELDM's to 2.365"

While I can’t confirm the stainless asc can fit longer, I cut a window in mine for 2.350”, I can confirm the aluminum ASC 10 rounder can NOT fit 2.300”

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Yes, I'd also be interested in seeing a side-by-side of some 77s and 88s shot in gel at various velocities.

In my sample of one, I'd bet that 88 would have significantly more penetration potential than most of the 77s I've shot into animals.

OTOH, although I didn't have time to open the bear, I didn't see as much external bloodshot trauma that I've seen quite a few times with the 77s. That probably makes sense as for whatever reason, this bullet didn't come apart nearly as much as the 77s so far have.

I suppose by next year we'll have a pretty good idea of how they compare.

Kinda surprised you caught it. Leg and impact velocity prolly helped. 38% of it got to do some fireworks.

And yeah it is fun to watch the the tmk vs eldm agenda. It’s win win regardless as more options the better. Hope to see the tmk agenda progress to big name available factory ammo lineup on all shelves in North America like Hornady has with eldm, so more options to compare in new rifles and just shoot most accurate one. Gettin by on factory eldm has been pretty easy for a long long time (even in Canada) but Sierra and especially tmk, seems to be still a reloaders bullet outfit. Federal feels like it could do it best?