223 Ackley brass for sale?

[Jesse Jaymes]

Has anyone ever found already burped and formed 223 Ackley brass for sale? With the cost of components....it's simply not as easy to burp loaded ammo into Ackley as it used to be.

Finding "factory" brass would be a plus if priced right.

 

[wind gypsy]

Has anyone ever found already burped and formed 223 Ackley brass for sale? With the cost of components....it's simply not as easy to burp loaded ammo into Ackley as it used to be.

Finding "factory" brass would be a plus if priced right.

I thought about having my next tube chambered in AI and what I would do is just buy 400 rounds of ADI 55 SBK or 69 smk for less than the cost Lapua component brass and shoot them to fireform and break in the barrel. Then you have your brass.

 

[gbflyer]

That’s a good idea. I wonder if there is enough consistency across the board with Ackley Improved chambers to make this feasible. The 280AI was accepted by SAAMI, therefore the chambers should be uniform more or less. Not sure about the .223. There seems to be a lot of dimensional variants with many Ackley chamberings.


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[wind gypsy]

That’s a good idea. I wonder if there is enough consistency across the board with Ackley Improved chambers to make this feasible. The 280AI was accepted by SAAMI, therefore the chambers should be uniform more or less. Not sure about the .223. There seems to be a lot of dimensional variants with many Ackley chamberings.


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It was common for quite a while to buy hydro formed 6 dasher, brx, bra, etc. probably much less of a market for 223 because of cost and barrel life.

 

[B23]

They shoot, realllly, good with fireforming loads so in all honesty there's not any wasted components.

Defensive Edge built my 223AI a number of years ago. It started life as a Rem 700 LTR 223 that shot great right out of the box but I thought I need a 223AI so I dropped it off with Shawn Carlock and he trued the action, ordered a fluted Hart 9tw barrel and chambered it in 223AI. Shawn gave me a heads up when it was nearly done but I didn't have dies for it yet so I dropped a box of factory Hornady Superformance 53gr Vmax off so he'd have something to shoot in it. Mine being a 9tw to shoot up to around the 70's, if I wanted to, has a bit of freebore so those factory 53 Vmax were jumping a longggg ways before touching and Shawn is a damn fine shooter but the first three shot group down the barrel shot a .114 group. I don't often save targets but even though I didn't shoot it, that's one I've kept.

I have a few others that are AI'd or are "improved" versions and they all shoot pretty darn good with fireforming loads but my 223AI just happens to shoot exceptionally well with fireforming loads, even that particular Hornady ammo.

 

[Jesse Jaymes]

I've had this AI barrel many years. A Pac Nor Super 3 groove. Could have 1500 rounds. Could have 5000 No clue really. Shoots VERY well.

I've always wanted to get squared away with this rig. It's shot 100s of jack rabbits and coyotes down South. I don't "abuse" it like that anymore. For longevity...I simply have a hard time pounding 200 rounds down it to fireform.

Always wanted to take that next step up to Lapua brass for this rig. Maybe it is time to buy and load 200 rounds off 77 TMKs and goof LR with it on steel and enjoy the proceeds?

Barrel shank on this rifle is ridiculous. Like 4" exposed. I would love it pruned back 2.5" or more and rechambered. So that was my plan to burp some brass set it back inches.

Guessing that would clear out the entire throat and first few inches of barrel and in this chambering.....kinda get a new lease on life? Cut out several thousand rounds of wear?

 

[rayporter]

i have had brass hydro formed but darrel has retired.
you might try whidden gunworks.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Always wanted to take that next step up to Lapua brass for this rig. Maybe it is time to buy and load 200 rounds off 77 TMKs and goof LR with it on steel and enjoy the proceeds?

Barrel shank on this rifle is ridiculous. Like 4" exposed. I would love it pruned back 2.5" or more and rechambered. So that was my plan to burp some brass set it back inches.

Guessing that would clear out the entire throat and first few inches of barrel and in this chambering.....kinda get a new lease on life? Cut out several thousand rounds of wear?

Consider setting it back first and then fire forming the Lapua in the new chamber so you don't run into dimensional issues.

 

[wyosam]

That’s a good idea. I wonder if there is enough consistency across the board with Ackley Improved chambers to make this feasible. The 280AI was accepted by SAAMI, therefore the chambers should be uniform more or less. Not sure about the .223. There seems to be a lot of dimensional variants with many Ackley chamberings.


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Insist that it is chambered and headspaced correctly. Any correctly chambered AI should have a slight crush fit on parent cartridge ammunition, and it should shoot it well. There are a whole lot of poorly chambered rifles of all varieties out there, but yes AIs more than most. No reason for fire forming loads to be “wasted” components. You’re breaking in the barrel, enjoying shooting with a rifle that will do 95% or more of what it will do with improved cases, and making brass. As mentioned above, make 400 or so and they’ll last the life of the barrel if you aren’t destroying them with over pressure loads.


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[Jesse Jaymes]

I get super sooty necks/shoulders w it now. Never been pleased w the chambering. But everything I cram in there.....LEO 223, fire formed, all flavors of brass, etc......go Bang! And it's accurate.

 

[Wrench]

You can form with a load of fast pistol powder too. If you do set it back, make sure you give your smith a few pieces of brass to match your chamber.

The setback success will depend on the tube. If the meat is there, it should work.

As above, my 223ai shoots forming loads as well as anything else.

 

[Jesse Jaymes]

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