22 Creedmoor Build Questions

[Darkone1221]

Hey guys! I am looking to put together a semi custom rifle but was hoping for some input. Here’s what I have in mind, first off I want it to be the next level for my varmint gun. I love the 17 fireball, 220 swift and the 204 Ruger and now I’m interested in the 22 creedmoor because it is a ballistic twin with a 22-250 Ackley Improved. I would like to take a 60-70 grain bullet as close to 4,000 fps as I can with hand loads. Truthfully I want the heaviest bullet I can get to 4,000 fps. I am okay with a 24-26 inch threaded barrel. I know the recommended twist rate is 1:8 for 80 grain bullets. I do not know what twist would be best for my application, nor do I know if I want to deviate from the sammi of freebore. If you know anything about it, please educate me. Right now I have two ideas. First is using an aero precision action and using a profit barrel; either a proof or preferred barrel. Pros, I believe I can run a single stage trigger tech trigger (my choice of triggers). Cons, I do not believe this action is a drop in for just any R700 stock, it’s the most I want to spend on an action (sorry, no defiance today), and it does not come with a bead blasted stainless finish which is what I want. My next idea is to find a tikka 6.5 creedmoor, 22-250, or 308 and rebarrel it with a prefit barrel. Pros: cheaper, tikkas have good actions (from what I hear), I like the stocks, can find stainless models. Cons: few trigger options besides factory, less customizable it seems like. If you guys have any alternative paths (besides just buying a horizon 22 creed) let me know! Also, if you have any recommendations on a stainless model tikka that comes in those cartridges please let me know! Thanks!!

 

[Deere_Man]

The Tikka T3X 22-250 comes twisted 1:8”

Just send the rifle off to have it rechambered to 22 Creedmoor.

 

[Darkone1221]

The Tikka T3X 22-250 comes twisted 1:8”

Just send the rifle off to have it rechambered to 22 Creedmoor.

Do you know which model? I was looking at a t3x superlite in 22-250 because it is stainless and it has a 22 inch barrel with a 1:14 twist. It was what I was considering rebarreling


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[Bradvr]

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[Darkone1221]

Also have been looking into a howa 1500, I see brownells has a stainless 308 and 6.5 creed. The only thing is I have yet to find a stock I like and the barreled actions I’m interested in are currently backordered.


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[Pickettpuncher]

https://www.eurooptic.com/tikka-t3x-lite-stainless-22-250-rem-224-1-8-rifle-jrtxb314r8

 

[hereinaz]

You are better off with a Tikka or Aero. I have both. The Tikka might feel better… The Tikka trigger turned down is crispy like a TT to me. Just can’t go down weight that far.

I also have Howa, it’s the best budget and has a nice trigger. It’s a step down from the others.

A Preferred prefit is a fantastic option. I have sold lots of 22 creed barrels and they shoot the 80 grains great.

I don’t have anything like that twist and length.

If you want me to put together a Tikka, you can spec it out and I can give you a price.

In my mind. Paying to rechamber a new rifle isn’t worth the squeeze.

 

[Deere_Man]

Do you know which model? I was looking at a t3x superlite in 22-250 because it is stainless and it has a 22 inch barrel with a 1:14 twist. It was what I was considering rebarreling


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There are T3X Lite, T3X Lite Compact, and T3X Lite Stainless models in 22-250 1:8” twist.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

I don't think you're going to get 4,000 fps with a 70 gr bullet and 22 creed. That sounds like 22 prc territory unless you're using a crazy long barrel.

Tikka 22/250 to 22 creed conversion is super simple

 

[Darkone1221]

You are better off with a Tikka or Aero. I have both. The Tikka might feel better… The Tikka trigger turned down is crispy like a TT to me. Just can’t go down weight that far.

I also have Howa, it’s the best budget and has a nice trigger. It’s a step down from the others.

A Preferred prefit is a fantastic option. I have sold lots of 22 creed barrels and they shoot the 80 grains great.

I don’t have anything like that twist and length.

If you want me to put together a Tikka, you can spec it out and I can give you a price.

In my mind. Paying to rechamber a new rifle isn’t worth the squeeze.

After further research and speaking with my local guy I plan to buy a tikka t3x lite stainless model in 22-250,308, or 6.5CM and order a preferred barrel. Do you have options that are more cost effective than this? 1400 bucks just for the rifle, not including a rail, rings, or scope. Sucks to just toss a new factory barrel. Anyways, kinda leaning on a strait fluted stainless 24inch barrel in 1:8. As far as bullets thinking about 55gr Barnes or a Hornady equivalent. From what I’ve read, that twist isn’t too fast. Barnes loads them in a 1:7 barrel and gets 3800fps. I do not have any idea what contour to use. I would like as close to a bull barrel I can get while still fitting in the t3x lite stock. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks again


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[Castle Rock]

Sounds like you want something accurate, I would get an accuracy gunsmith to fit a custom barrel.

 

[Darkone1221]

Sounds like you want something accurate, I would get an accuracy gunsmith to fit a custom barrel.

That is exactly what I want. I went to my accuracy gunsmith to whom I trust extensively. He built a rifle for my brother that shot 3 inch groups at 1,000yds from a completion bench rest. For 15k though. He did not give me a price, I told him I was looking for a budget option, and he recommended proof prefit as he uses proof blanks. After finding a proof prefit I noticed that preferred has a lot more customizable options. I showed him this and he told me if I went that route, and was not happy with accuracy, that he could bed the action properly. Do a full on lap of the barrel, and action lugs, bed the rail, bed the scope rings if needed, and help me develop a load for a reasonable price. He did say that if preferred does not chamber the barrel to a high degree of precision then it will not shoot like one of his or a proof.

 

[SloppyJ]

A zermatt origin from NSS is what you want. Don't spend 1400 on a Tikka. You can find them much cheaper if you go that route.

 

[Darkone1221]

A zermatt origin from NSS is what you want. Don't spend 1400 on a Tikka. You can find them much cheaper if you go that route.

I don’t know much about a zermatt origin. Where would I find a stock and trigger? After a quick search seems like one of those is the same price as a new tikka.

 

[SloppyJ]

It certainly is but you can swap bolt heads on it for future cartridges without buying an entire new bolt and they take rem700 parts. Tikka is likely the cheaper way but you have some more versatility with the origin.

Also, Aero uses the same savage small shank barrel setup as an origin and everyone that makes prefits, makes them for an origin. They were one of the first for shouldered prefits.

 

[Duh]

You might be able to touch 4,000fps with a 60grain bullet. I’ve got a 26 inch PBB on a tikka action in a 1:12 twist. It’s pushing a 53grain vmax up to 4100fps, depending on what lot of Varget I’m running.

Got another 20in 22 CM that’s pushing the 62 eldvt around 3520fps. Thats on an sig cross though.

 

[Darkone1221]

You might be able to touch 4,000fps with a 60grain bullet. I’ve got a 26 inch PBB on a tikka action in a 1:12 twist. It’s pushing a 53grain vmax up to 4100fps, depending on what lot of Varget I’m running.

Got another 20in 22 CM that’s pushing the 62 eldvt around 3520fps. Thats on an sig cross though.

Sounds like I want a 53gr v-max then


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[JFK]

Weatherby is making 22cm’s now on their 307 (rem 700) action. Comes with a very nice peak 44 stock as well. Might be something to consider.

 

[Duh]

Sounds like I want a 53gr v-max then


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It’s a nasty bullet for sure. I’ve got it on a 17lb set up and it’s so fun to shoot.

I only went 1:12 because I didn’t want to mess with the potential of spinning a vmax apart at those speeds with a 1:8 twist. I considered a 1:8 with the Lehigh Defense 55 grain copper bullet but decided to just stick with the vmax. I think the copper bullet would have handled the 1:8 twist around the 4K speeds.

 

[Darkone1221]

It’s a nasty bullet for sure. I’ve got it on a 17lb set up and it’s so fun to shoot.

I only went 1:12 because I didn’t want to mess with the potential of spinning a vmax apart at those speeds with a 1:8 twist. I considered a 1:8 with the Lehigh Defense 55 grain copper bullet but decided to just stick with the vmax. I think the copper bullet would have handled the 1:8 twist around the 4K speeds.

You don’t think it would keep together with a 1:8 twist? Damn, not the news I wanted to hear. I only want 1:8 so that if I did step up into an 80 grain for larger animals it would stabilize. So since you have a tikka action with a 26 inch barrel give me the run down. What do you like about it? What do you dislike about it? If you did it again, what would you do differently? Sounds like you’ve done exactly what I’m trying to do.


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