22 cal semi auto pistol to use with suppressor?

[z987k]

Not sure if you'd be interested in an in-between, but I was looking for something small and handy around here, for general utility. Something for snakes mostly, but also rabbit or game-birds of opportunity - not a pistol, but not a big long gun. Picked up a Rossi Tuffy in .410 that's been surprisingly useful and handy to have around. Super light, small, but usable out to .410 ranges with whatever load you're using.

There's no real difference in carrying that and my 20. Both have to go in the case because they're way too big to carry on you while on a sled.

If its any bigger than say an X frame pistol its too big.

What I need is something like a judge but without the rifling. Which is an nfa item.

 

[z987k]

I can’t wait till 36 bore subs catch on in the states. Such a cool little gauge that’s perfect for these applications.

Isn't 36 just .410?

 

[EuroOptic]

Isn't 36 just .410?

Pretty much, loaded and used a little differently overseas from what I know. Lots of little subsonic loads that sound like pop guns for shooting rabbits and small birds

 

[Chris in TN]

Pretty much, loaded and used a little differently overseas from what I know. Lots of little subsonic loads that sound like pop guns for shooting rabbits and small birds

I think there'll come a day when we see the value in subsonic shotgun ammo. Avoiding the transonic range means less pattern disruption and if you spend the extra energy of component costs, choosing larger shot, not faster shot, you can end up with greater effective range. Or, put another way, maybe (making up numbers here) instead of using a certain powder charge to make 1-1/4oz of #6s hit 1250', maybe you use the same(?) powder charge to make 1-5/8oz of #5s hit 1100'.

(Obviously I realize that there are ballistic considerations beyond 'just add more bigger shot'....)

Play with numbers and you'll see that the latter would have more energy per pellet at 50 yards. Plus, it's subsonic, easier to suppress (if shotgun cans ever become common), and quieter even unsuppressed. It just seems counterproductive that we spend so much effort making faster shotgun pellets when they decelerate so fast at supersonic speeds. Certainly there's a place for that in pass shooting ducks where leading the bird matters (leading, not leading, lol) but for general purpose use I think there's a lot of potential for better shotgun shells by focusing on the subsonic realm.

Also - I bought a cheap loader years ago so I could make subsonic low-recoil loads for my kids. 3/4oz of #6s at subsonic speeds is perfectly sufficient for squirrels and I've seen several grouse out west where I momentarily wished I had one with me.