21' F250 to a 18' Tundra

[Steve300xcw]

I saw a newer F-150 crew cab the other day with a load of gravel. The tires were buried way into the wheel wells. I'm surprised the rear bumper wasn't scraping the asphalt. I don't know if the driver will be bitching about the leaf springs for the next 2 decades, but Ford doesn't do these guys any favors by advertising payload and towing capacities only for the single cab models with the payload upgrade packages. These guys buy a crew cab and wonder why they're on the ground with 1500-2000 lb in the bed or on the ball hitch.

My '14 f150 has holes in the bed from a 5th wheel......

I really wonder about people sometimes.

 

[One300wsm]

I’m not sure why 200k would be a milestone for any newer vehicle of any make for the last 25 years. I’ve got two in the driveway now 2007 Duramax with over 300K keeps on trucking, a 2007 Ford Taurus 215k every day driver. I’ve also owned several more makes and models over 200K pushing 300k most were still running.

 

[Ajsomp]

If you need the payload, you’ll never get it out of the tundra. I love my tundra(s). Owned a few. The g2 is great. If you want a truck to do what most people actual need, the tundra will exceed that. If you are the rare type that needs the towing and payload, you’re going to be missing the 250.

I would love to justify the 3/4 or 1 ton but I don’t tow enough. Tundra does everything I need

 

[Broomd]

How do you guys with Tundra's manage the relatively low payload? (or just send it and not pay too much attention?)

Send it...just be sure to retrofit a trans cooler on the latest gen 2.5.

Bilstein 5100s
Firestone Ride Rite bags
Falken Wildpeak 10 ply

 

[Thinkingman]

I saw a newer F-150 crew cab the other day with a load of gravel. The tires were buried way into the wheel wells. I'm surprised the rear bumper wasn't scraping the asphalt. I don't know if the driver will be bitching about the leaf springs for the next 2 decades, but Ford doesn't do these guys any favors by advertising payload and towing capacities only for the single cab models with the payload upgrade packages. These guys buy a crew cab and wonder why they're on the ground with 1500-2000 lb in the bed or on the ball hitch.

So desperate....

 

[Steve300xcw]

So desperate....

This coming from you?

 

[Steve300xcw]

If you need the payload, you’ll never get it out of the tundra.

Buddy finally sold his 6.0 powerstroke and picked up a tundra. He really liked the thing. But dragging his camp trailer an such up into the brush, said he was using ALL of the truck. Didnt have it long. Ended up in a newer powerstroke, and pretty happy about it.

I know the mindset on here is bare minimum, smallest, lightest etc etc. But sometimes its ok to have a bit extra on reserve.

Course if as the OP said. He doesnt have the need for a 3/4 ton anymore...Kinda reads though as he's going through a divorce and wants to hit the reset button on everything. Which that I totally understand

 

[Ajsomp]

Buddy finally sold his 6.0 powerstroke and picked up a tundra. He really liked the thing. But dragging his camp trailer an such up into the brush, said he was using ALL of the truck. Didnt have it long. Ended up in a newer powerstroke, and pretty happy about it.

I know the mindset on here is bare minimum, smallest, lightest etc etc. But sometimes its ok to have a bit extra on reserve.

Course if as the OP said. He doesnt have the need for a 3/4 ton anymore...Kinda reads though as he's going through a divorce and wants to hit the reset button on everything. Which that I totally understand

I don’t see it as bare minimum, but rather get what you need rather than get a bunch of extras that don’t add value. Can apply across the board but I tend to see guys on here making recommendations aimed towards function and skill over a new piece of gear. But maybe I’m not reading it right.

As far as trucks go, I personally pay more attention to payload than towing (again, I don’t tow often enough to matter). And while there are dudes who load half tons to the gills and send it, it’s pretty easy to overload a crew cab half ton. And it’s really hard to compete with the new 6.7, I drove one across country to Idaho and it was ripping through the mountains like we had nothing in the truck or on the hitch.

It may be off topic, but I’ve personally had good experience with the 21+? Nissan titans, specifically the XDs. They didn’t sell well because Nissan didn’t know what they had, and people didn’t understand the truck. It’s the same reliable gas v8, but in a crew cab, a longer bed, and higher payload. And because it’s a discontinued Nissan, prices are much cheaper in comparison. OP may find that to be a good option. If you find one of the pro4x versions you get a rear locker too, which I’ve used more than once in some shitty backcountry roads.

 

[Steve300xcw]

As far as trucks go, I personally pay more attention to payload than towing (again, I don’t tow often enough to matter). And while there are dudes who load half tons to the gills and send it, it’s pretty easy to overload a crew cab half ton. And it’s really hard to compete with the new 6.7, I drove one across country to Idaho and it was ripping through the mountains like we had nothing in the truck or on the hitch.

Agreed. I picked up a supercrew 5.0 f150 a while back. Read enough about them, I had high hopes.... and to say I was disappointed is an understatement. It was replaced with a wore out v10 f250 On paper is one thing, real world is sometimes very different.

While that f150 was a super comfy rig. For me it wasnt good for much more than a commuter rig. Probly the last 1/2 ton I buy. I'll sick with my mini trucks and 3/4ton an up from here on.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Agreed. I picked up a supercrew 5.0 f150 a while back. Read enough about them, I had high hopes.... and to say I was disappointed is an understatement. It was replaced with a wore out v10 f250 On paper is one thing, real world is sometimes very different.

While that f150 was a super comfy rig. For me it wasnt good for much more than a commuter rig. Probly the last 1/2 ton I buy. I'll sick with my mini trucks and 3/4ton an up from here on.

I've heard people say that their new F150 ecoboost blows away their old 7.3 F350 in every way. I can't help but laugh. Many a time I've seen one of those old one tons with a load that would bury an F150.

 

[2rsquared]

Your F250 is a lot more truck with more capability.

Gas mileage between the 2 isn't that much of a difference.

I'd fix the AC on the Ford and stick with it.

Change all the fluids regularly and no reason you shouldn't get 250 -300k miles out of it.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I've heard people say that their new F150 ecoboost blows away their old 7.3 F350 in every way. I can't help but laugh. Many a time I've seen one of those old one tons with a load that would bury an F150.

Same here. And lets be honest, a 7.3 was no powerhouse

 

[TimberHunter]

A F250 with the 6.2 V8 and the 6 speed transmission will very lakily reach that milage and even exceed by a lot.

I have this combo but in a 2014 half ton. Currently at 101k miles. Some days I wonder about it’s longevity and then I’m reminded by posts like yours


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[Steve300xcw]

I have this combo but in a 2014 half ton. Currently at 101k miles. Some days I wonder about it’s longevity and then I’m reminded by posts like yours


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One of the ford forums has a thread about mileage on the 6.2's. Was a guy on there delivering steel with his. IIRC had near 500k when it ate the cam. Stuck a new motor in and was over 900k when he hit a cow. Transmission was never touched and His list of parts he threw at that truck was pretty short.

 

[VomSteinbruch]

Some days I wonder about it’s longevity and then I’m reminded by posts like yours

The engine and the 6speed transmission are very reliable. I am not sure how the other units under the hood work, but that is the best combo Ford put in the truck.
I personally know a guy who went out to buy an F250 specifically with that combo. He didn't want the 7.3 and the newer 10 speed.

 

[TheWhitetailNut]

So does an F150

No. A properly equipped F-150 is meaningfully more capable than any Tundra. Hell, It's more capable than previous years of Diesel F-250's.

 

[IdahoBeav]

No. A properly equipped F-150 is meaningfully more capable than any Tundra. Hell, It's more capable than previous years of Diesel F-250's.

“Properly equipped” is an increased payload package or aftermarket airbags, leaf springs, etc., i.e. “band-aids” as another put it. A 4x4 crew cab F150 without upgrades has a payload in the 1500-1800 lb range, sometimes less. This is right where a Tundra is. A standard F250 is almost always 2200+, even the old ones. The new ones with the 6.7 are over 2600. It’s even higher with a gas engine.

Newer F150s have more horsepower and torque than the old diesels, but they won’t take the same weight in the bed or on the tongue.

People get way too hung up on towing capacity and forget about payload. An F150 is made for a soft ride with a light load in the bed.

 

[mudlickman2]

2010 Tundra with 215k. Literally never done anything to it outside of routine maintenance and it’s never gave me any issues. Only regret is not getting the Crew cab. When I bought it I only had a 2 year old and now I have 3 boys and that 2 year old is now a 5ft 5in 12 year old. Little cramped with the double cab.

As you have prolly seen the used market is wild for the last of the 5.7s.

I was gonna upgrade but I think I’m just gonna get a 2018-22 sequoia 5.7 for a dedicated family rig and continue abusing the Tundra.


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