2024 Wyoming Draw thread

[Jethro]

I had 4 PPs. Wild but true story. I was awarded my dream tag in 2019, then my son wrecked his quad the week before the archery opener and I sent my tag back with a request for medical waiver to carry to 2020. I was crushed. I knew deep down I lost all my Elk PPs to stay home and bath a teenage boy. It seems God had bigger plans. It was a shot in the dark, but I was awarded the med waiver request and also able to buy a 2020 PP. Then in 2021 with all 3 of my sons healthy and my brother in tow, back to WY tagging out on speed goats! God is good!

Good deal. Nice bull. Glad to hear your son recovered. Good luck this season.

 

[rodney482]

how many points did it take to draw Special (west) ???

 

[kparrott]

how many points did it take to draw Special (west) ???

100% with 5 points.

5 points was also 100% in the regular.


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[rodney482]

100% with 5 points.

5 points was also 100% in the regular.


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Wow ... crazy both were 5

 

[kparrott]

Wow ... crazy both were 5

What blows my mind is people applying in the special with enough points to draw in the regular.


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[Roger17]

What blows my mind is people applying in the special with enough points to draw in the regular.


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They listened to too much internet. Heck, there is even an individual on here who proclaimed every chance they got that WY general would now be an OIL draw due to point creep.

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[bdan68]

What blows my mind is people applying in the special with enough points to draw in the regular.


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But that's because there's no way to know until after the draw happens how many points it's going to take. Lots of people with points who don't apply every year and nobody knows when a significant number of those people might decide to jump in.

 

[Jason Snyder]

They listened to too much internet. Heck, there is even an individual on here who proclaimed every chance they got that WY general would now be an OIL draw due to point creep.

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Point creep isn’t done. If you draw now, how do you expect to catch up to get another general tag? Unless you pull random, it’s hard to say where this will end. A general used to be a 50% draw with no points.

 

[Roger17]

Point creep isn’t done. If you draw now, how do you expect to catch up to get another general tag? Unless you pull random, it’s hard to say where this will end. A general used to be a 50% draw with no points.

No doubt. I started buying points for my son and I when he entered nursing school so I'd have enough to take him on a diy WY elk hunt for graduation.Took 2 then. We'll be buying our 5th point this year. But, without non-resident quota cuts, I don't see WY general becoming an OIL type draw. Reg or special neither one jumped this year as much as so many were proclaiming. Guess we'll see what next year holds when I actually apply. The reality is no one really knows at what rate creep will occur.

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[wapitibob]

Point creep isn’t done. If you draw now, how do you expect to catch up to get another general tag? Unless you pull random, it’s hard to say where this will end. A general used to be a 50% draw with no points.

Adapt or get left behind. Focus on nothing but Gen tags, a guy will end up disappointed. No different than a 100-1 Elk license or a 128 Muley license.

 

[TheCoyote]

I think that the post covid all out insanity tag demand is starting to cool off a bit. Call me crazy but I've seen a number of draw odds actually get better. Outfitters with less than full camps, landowner tags not selling at rockstar prices.
It is all subjective but I am truly curious about this.
Maybe a lot of people got juiced up about hunting but then realized that it is actually really hard to be successful.

 

[voltage]

I think that the post covid all out insanity tag demand is starting to cool off a bit. Call me crazy but I've seen a number of draw odds actually get better. Outfitters with less than full camps, landowner tags not selling at rockstar prices.
It is all subjective but I am truly curious about this.
Maybe a lot of people got juiced up about hunting but then realized that it is actually really hard to be successful.

That theory can be proven (or disproven) with objective data. The demand for many tags has held steady or dropped, but in total, more people played the game in 2024 than did in 2023.

As for outfitter camps, a lot of outfitters are dealing with repeat clients not being able to return as often as they used to. Now, they have to get 2-4x as many clients, and most outfitters aren’t the best at marketing.

I do hope the demand cools off, but I’m not holding my breath. I like to hunt when I can, because this year is just about always better than next year (and that extends for reasons beyond tag demand).

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Lots of people are struggling paying 200% for their daily necessities so that could be having an impact.

 

[longrie]

I have seen way more openings with really solid outfitters this year than in the past 3-4. I think the economy is having an effect. Does it translate to draw odds? My guess is it probably will have much more effect on the easier to draw tags than the top end units.

 

[elkocd]

Point creep isn’t done. If you draw now, how do you expect to catch up to get another general tag? Unless you pull random, it’s hard to say where this will end. A general used to be a 50% draw with no points.

We drew the NR General as a 2nd choice for a few years not all that long ago! Of course that was in the special.