2019 Chevy Silverado LT Trail Boss

[StuckInTheEast]

I would advise against anything GM 1/2 ton truck that's out of warranty and built after 2007...I can only base that on first hand experience and the statistical evidence of wreching on all makes/models for a living for over 20 years...
And there GM parts counter and service guys telling me "I dont know how this company is still in business to be honest with you" on a regular basis...take that however you choose, your results may vary.

 

[dtrkyman]

Friends trans shop is full of them!

 

[WYO_ATL]

Dont do it. My 2019 6.2 dropped a lifter at 98k and it was going to be $10k to hopefully get another 100k miles out of it. Ditched it for another yota. Find a 2.5gen Tundra with the 5.7 and call it a day. Alternatively, get a serious warranty on anything newer that you buy. I'm in that camp with 80k miles worth of warranty on a 2023 Tundra right now.

My 6.2 let go but the transmission was also not running so well. I wouldn't touch a GM product at all.

Bought a 2020 5.7 Tundra this morning


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[SloppyJ]

Bought a 2020 5.7 Tundra this morning


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That's the most solid choice you could have made in my opinion. Congrats.

 

[WYO_ATL]

That's the most solid choice you could have made in my opinion. Congrats.

I made another post with a picture. It’s all decked out with accessories, and that isn’t my style, but it looks good and now I don’t ever have to do any work to it.


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[StuckInTheEast]

I made another post with a picture. It’s all decked out with accessories, and that isn’t my style, but it looks good and now I don’t ever have to do any work to it.


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Sounds like a solid choice. While likely the most reliable 1/2 ton powertain wise...you still have to work on them...they all have failures of some sort. Starters, wheel bearings front and rear, water pumps, air injection system and various other things are still fair game for failure on a tundra with 100k+ miles.
Keep that Trans fluid changed with genuine Toyota/Aisin WS fluid every 30-50k miles...cheaper insurance to keep a typically very solid/reliable trans in good working order for 300k+ miles.
Enjoy your new rig!

 

[Macintosh]

2019 LD z71 model here (18 body, etc, but 19 model year). 5.3 6spd. Mine has been pretty trouble free at about 75k miles. Had a leaking rear axle seal, which I believe is fairly common, but other than that its been just wear parts. I think its a very comfortable truck, drives great, I preferred it comfort and ride-wise to the 19 tundra.
Is the transmission and other major issues people are talking about limited to the 2019 and newer new body-style trucks? Chevy’s are ubiquitous, and I dont know anyone who’s had a transmission issue in a 14-19 model…how “common” are we talking about here?

 

[dtrkyman]

My friends 15 trans went at 125k

Truck was well cared for.


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[tradman]

My stepfathers 2018 silverados transmission has already been replaced at around 100k.

 

[derrick454@]

19 had the 8 speed. I’d recommend the 6 speed in the older models. They had failure rates to but less.
My 19 clunked a lot. I’m back in the a 2015 w 6 speed and happy to be back.
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[StuckInTheEast]

2019 LD z71 model here (18 body, etc, but 19 model year). 5.3 6spd. Mine has been pretty trouble free at about 75k miles. Had a leaking rear axle seal, which I believe is fairly common, but other than that its been just wear parts. I think its a very comfortable truck, drives great, I preferred it comfort and ride-wise to the 19 tundra.
Is the transmission and other major issues people are talking about limited to the 2019 and newer new body-style trucks? Chevy’s are ubiquitous, and I dont know anyone who’s had a transmission issue in a 14-19 model…how “common” are we talking about here?

6,8, 10 spd...pick your poison...all have high occurrence rates of substantial failures. Far higher transmission and major engine failure rates than any other brand short of Hyundai's engine fiasco.
GM is hard pass for me from my personal experience. Some have different views/experiences...I base my opinions on what I see first hand across the board and what I hear from others first hand in the repair industry.
I still know a few die hard GM guys that work a dealers and think they are great trucks despite what they see everyday...lack of perspective maybe? Im not a fan.
Im also not a fan of toyotas 3.4l turbo engine or much of anything about the newest tundra...More to say, Brand loyalty doesn't factor into any automotive purchase decisions I would ever make. If its good, its good, if its not its not no matter the badge on the grill.

 

[Macintosh]

6,8, 10 spd...pick your poison...all have high occurrence rates of substantial failures. Far higher transmission and major engine failure rates than any other brand short of Hyundai's engine fiasco.
GM is hard pass for me from my personal experience. Some have different views/experiences...I base my opinions on what I see first hand across the board and what I hear from others first hand in the repair industry.
I still know a few die hard GM guys that work a dealers and think they are great trucks despite what they see everyday...lack of perspective maybe? Im not a fan.
Im also not a fan of toyotas 3.4l turbo engine or much of anything about the newest tundra...More to say, Brand loyalty doesn't factor into any automotive purchase decisions I would ever make. If its good, its good, if its not its not no matter the badge on the grill.

My question is what does “high occurrance rate” mean? Does that mean 1 out of 10,000, 1 out of 1000, 1 out of 100, 1 out of 10, etc? I probably know a dozen-ish of these without issues, I’m aware I just dont have the visibility to extrapolate beyond that. Can you take a stab at quantifying what a “high occurrance rate” is in this case?

 

[StuckInTheEast]

My question is what does “high occurrance rate” mean? Does that mean 1 out of 10,000, 1 out of 1000, 1 out of 100, 1 out of 10, etc? I probably know a dozen-ish of these without issues, I aware I just dont have the visibility to extrapolate beyond that. Can you take a stab at quantifying what a “high occurrance rate” is in this case?

You'd have to ask GM warranty dept about that if you want any kind of extrapolated data.
I dont see 10k vehicles a year through my shop.
Probably haven't seen 10k gm 1/2 tons in my career...
I do however see a pretty proportional number, relative to number on the road in my area, of GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan 1/2 trucks/suvs...Ford and GM 1/2 tons make up the largest volume of our truck repair work. This should be expected based on sales volume. Ratio of GM products needing transmissions, engines, or major engine repairs is about 3 times higher than Ford products for same types of work.
If I get 5 free hours some time tgis decade to go through my point of sale system and cherry pick all those data points out, I'll let you know specifics. The long of it short is myself, and several other shop owners, as well as Jasper Engines will quickly concure GM half ton powertrain products are best sellers and in improportionate volume for vehicles in service when compared to other manufacturers.

 

[jhim]

My work truck is a 21 Trail Boss LT. The transmission was replaced at 60,000. I guess I never gave it a second thought until I read all these other guys saying they had to replace their tranny's too.

 

[ChrisA]

My work truck is a 21 Trail Boss LT. The transmission was replaced at 60,000. I guess I never gave it a second thought until I read all these other guys saying they had to replace their tranny's too.

Can you describe the symptoms leading up to it crapping the bed? A little concerned with my '23 and some somewhat hard shifts at 77,000 miles.

 

[jhim]

Can you describe the symptoms leading up to it crapping the bed? A little concerned with my '23 and some somewhat hard shifts at 77,000 miles.

Initially it was lagging when accelerating to pass at highway speeds. Then it started to make some grinding noises when trying to shift even in the lower gear ranges.

 

[ChrisA]

Initially it was lagging when accelerating to pass at highway speeds. Then it started to make some grinding noises when trying to shift even in the lower gear ranges.

Guess I should've trusted my gut and traded my '23 Trail Boss. 10 speed transmission failed today at 83k miles. Driving highway speed when it started down shifting as check engine light and some messages popped up. Wouldn't shift into anything over 3rd but was not slipping, limped it 10 miles to dealer. Now we'll see what the damages are and then worry about the 6.2L shitting the bed too.

 

[SloppyJ]

Guess I should've trusted my gut and traded my '23 Trail Boss. 10 speed transmission failed today at 83k miles. Driving highway speed when it started down shifting as check engine light and some messages popped up. Wouldn't shift into anything over 3rd but was not slipping, limped it 10 miles to dealer. Now we'll see what the damages are and then worry about the 6.2L shitting the bed too.

Good luck man. I was lucky because mine dropped a lifter right before the recall. Now they arent even trading for them so im not sure what youd do if you didnt want to drop the cash to fix it. I got 5k under book for mine and ran off into the sunset. Bill was 10k for a new motor.... whenever they could get one in which id still be waiting on.

 

[ChrisA]

Guess I should've trusted my gut and traded my '23 Trail Boss. 10 speed transmission failed today at 83k miles. Driving highway speed when it started down shifting as check engine light and some messages popped up. Wouldn't shift into anything over 3rd but was not slipping, limped it 10 miles to dealer. Now we'll see what the damages are and then worry about the 6.2L shitting the bed too.

Dodged a giant bullet with the transmission being fine, it was a loose wiring harness and there is actually a bulletin for a harness reroute. Now why wasn't the reroute performed at prior dealership services, unless it came out recently.