1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[TitsMcGee]

the people left reviewing them (on YT at least) are a mix of newish/wannabe guntubers, or some folks who know how to shoot, and have raved about the Buls .. but aren't necessarily taken seriously by "serious" comp guys. But when you strip away the personalities (and have some skepticism about guntuber content), the folks who've used them tend to overwelmingly have good things to report.

I always take guntuber reviews with the smallest grain of salt you can imagine. Nightwood guns seems the most honest and unbiased from what I've seen. Plus the guy can shoot, and he's a super nerd. He loves his Bul pistols. From what I've heard Bul perform at, or sometimes slightly above the level of Staccatos similar specd models but they have a worse warranty. It's only 1 year and apparently people in the past have had a hard time getting them to honor it.

 

[Dobermann]

I always take guntuber reviews with the smallest grain of salt you can imagine. Nightwood guns seems the most honest and unbiased from what I've seen. Plus the guy can shoot, and he's a super nerd. He loves his Bul pistols. From what I've heard Bul perform at, or sometimes slightly above the level of Staccatos similar specd models but they have a worse warranty. It's only 1 year and apparently people in the past have had a hard time getting them to honor it.

I pay little attention to them also - other than the couple who aren't in it for the views, and are happy to criticise, such as Ben and Joel.

But I find things can be learnt from some of the others who've done some long-form videos - just have to ignore the fluff and gushies, and listen out for failures, issues, etc. I find that if I laser in on the stuff that matters, there's sometimes surprisingly more than would first seem.

 

[TitsMcGee]

Also looking hard at the MAC 9 DS. Question about the MAC, comp or no comp?

I think it depends what you want to do with it, and also personal preference. Non-island comps and ports seem to have a less dramatic, or diminishing effect on perceived recoil the longer the barrel is. If you shoot indoors frequently they're a little louder and more percussive. There's also the potential to be hit with hot shrapnel shooting with a port/comp when shooting from retention if you plan to carry it, so that's something to keep in mind. They do make a difference though.

When I was shopping around the comp'd models were about $150-$200 more. If you compete they would put you in the open division. I went with non-comp because it was cheaper, and after all of my panic buying is up in August I want to start getting into local competitions with some work buddies. If you don't plan to compete, carry it, or shoot indoors primarily then comp is probably the way to go.

 

[ztc92]

What height did you end up doing for the sights? Where is your impact at now?

Update on the Dawson sights, they are excellent and an huge upgrade from the factory option. So much easier to get on target and stay on target with the black rear and fiber optic front.

The impact height seems about perfect using the system on their website. I question if the rear sight needs a slight adjustment or if I just need more practice. I will shoot my Glock dead center if I focus on a good trigger pull but I’m still learning the Tisas so it may be me causing it to shoot left.

This Tisas continues to impress me. Shooting in the cold (16 degrees today) I really disliked my Glock as the trigger and slide movement was very “snappy” and uncomfortable with cold fingers and hands. The Tisas 1911 is much nicer in terms of recoil and much more comfortable to shoot with cold hands as a result. It ran 5 different ammo types without any issues today and shoots 124 HSTs very well.

 

[Formidilosus]

Post-justification/rationalization reaction: “The universe is telling me to change all of my pistols to the 1911 platform, and this is how I can do it ‘economically’!”

Correct.

 

[Formidilosus]

What is it about these versus the others that shows such promise? And if true a 4" or 4.25 length would be cool to see in the future. Also assuming grip size is not 1911 but 2011 (staccato, tisas ds) sized.

They have shown a huge move towards making reliable guns again with the 2k11. They have taken that and applied it to the Warrior DS, but in a classic 1911 style. They are making a big deal about how their guns are being made to run straight out of the box, and what little I have seen they are very reminiscent of Staccato in 2019.


Yes they are true 2011 mags and frame.

eta - Do all Kimber 1911 have their schwartz grip safety?

You know, I don’t know. Kimber hasn’t been in contention for 20 years so I haven’t paid any attention to them.

have you looked at the new Springfield 10-8?

Briefly. It’s fine. I’m jaded however. Springfield broke apart their custom shop and discontinued the Pro. They were real pistols.

 

[Formidilosus]

Not to derail this any further but where do the pros in here stand on red dots on 1911's? Gotta have one if you can or messes with the aesthetic of the gun? I've always preferred the clean look of the classic 1911 but there's something fun about shooting with a dot as well.

If you want a dot on a 1911/2011- Aimpoint COA. Best choice.

Whether you want or need one is up to each person.

 

[Formidilosus]

Where do the kimber KDS9 series in your assessment?

Haven’t used them.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Colby new Colt that is getting some work done. Trigger wasn’t good, so installed a roll trigger. It needs a magwell and then look is correct-




Doesn’t shoot very well however:








It also got noticeably looser after only 30 rounds. So it is going to get a new barrel and bushing, magwell, and sights from the Drow.

 

[Dobermann]

Post-justification/rationalization reaction: “The universe is telling me to change all of my pistols to the 1911 platform, and this is how I can do it ‘economically’!”

I'll see you and raise you:

A big part of the reason I bought my black 1911 (after this thread and others) was ... it was the last one available - and was discounted.

The reason I bought the matching stainless model was ... it was the last one available, and was being discounted.

I'd really like the Commander-length SOF ... all I need to do is wait for my local dealer's pre-order notice: they offer pre-orders ... wait for it ... at a discount, which helps them to meet their minimum order amounts.

So: buy late, get cheap. Buy early, get cheap. Justified.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

@Colby new Colt that is getting some work done. Trigger wasn’t good, so installed a roll trigger. It needs a magwell and then look is correct-

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Doesn’t shoot very well however:
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It also got noticeably looser after only 30 rounds. So it is going to get a new barrel and bushing, magwell, and sights from the Drow.

Any opinions on the special combat government?

 

[fwafwow]

If you want a dot on a 1911/2011- Aimpoint COA. Best choice.

Whether you want or need one is up to each person.

Are those available only thru (and on) a Glock?

 

[Formidilosus]

Are those available only thru (and on) a Glock?

No. That was a one year agreement- they are available now.

 

[id_jon]

No. That was a one year agreement- they are available now.

They are available the same way a swfa 3-9 is.
Unless something changed in the last week since I inquired about one at a shop lol.
I am putting a RMRcc on a Springfield, should be good enough, but I'd prefer a COA for sure

 

[Formidilosus]

They are available the same way a swfa 3-9 is.
Unless something changed in the last week since I inquired about one at a shop lol.
I am putting a RMRcc on a Springfield, should be good enough, but I'd prefer a COA for sure

Ok. There was probably 40 Springfield pistols alone with COA’s at SHOT. They may not be able to be in hand today, but they are coming.

 

[Dobermann]

The COA is showing as out of stock on Aimpoint's own site. Not listed on Eurooptic's. Perhaps Jacke @EuroOptic can give us an ETA?

And @Formidilosus - why the COA over the Acro?

 

[EuroOptic]

The COA is showing as out of stock on Aimpoint's own site. Not listed on Eurooptic's. Perhaps Jacke @EuroOptic can give us an ETA?

And @Formidilosus - why the COA over the Acro?

Currently on top of a mountain looking for sheds, just sat down for lunch - missed most of the shotshow bustle cuz I’ve been off a couple days
Aimpoint is typically pretty quick with us, I would assume the ETA is very rapid ; but I’ll confirm Monday and update you guys from there

 

[Formidilosus]

The COA is showing as out of stock on Aimpoint's own site. Not listed on Eurooptic's. Perhaps Jacke @EuroOptic can give us an ETA?

And @Formidilosus - why the COA over the Acro?

Best mounting system on the market. Same size glass, yet noticeably smaller footprint.

 

[fwafwow]

Best mounting system on the market. Same size glass, yet noticeably smaller footprint.

I did a quick search (on my phone, on a plane) and it seems there may not yet be a plate for the COA, at least for the Staccato. I hope my search skills are off, or that it too is on the way.

 

[Formidilosus]

I did a quick search (on my phone, on a plane) and it seems there may not yet be a plate for the COA, at least for the Staccato. I hope my search skills are off, or that it too is on the way.

I don’t know that you’ll get a plate system. Well, I’m sure someone will make them, but it’s really meant to have the slide cut for it correctly.