1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[Formidilosus]

Good luck finding burner replacements.

Haha. I have that covered.

 

[Dobermann]

How would you actually do that - clocking the grip screws precisely?

Yep. It's a thing. High-end makers such as Alchemy/Cabot do it for all of theirs.

As far as I can tell, it's something for true believers / enthusiasts ...or dilettantes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

A bit like this ... which is not safe for work:

 

[HighUintas]

Yep. It's a thing. High-end makers such as Alchemy/Cabot do it for all of theirs.

As far as I can tell, it's something for true believers / enthusiasts ...or dilettantes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

A bit like this ... which is not safe for work:

Wtf

 

[RWT]

Yep. It's a thing. High-end makers such as Alchemy/Cabot do it for all of theirs.

As far as I can tell, it's something for true believers / enthusiasts ...or dilettantes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

A bit like this ... which is not safe for work:

Does this end as a Snuff film? Hooded men dancing! WTH? I don’t know if I feel violated or want to vote democrat now.

I am going to grab a whiskey before the weirdness creeps in.

 

[Claxton]

Any recommendations on a CCO?
How about Fusion 9mm 1911s? Apparently manufactured in Turkey but finished in USA by Fusion, started by a former Dan Wesson employee.

Dan Wesson for the CCO.

 

[tikkashooter88]

Picked up a Tisas 9mm Duty about 4 years ago for $350. Put it in the safe and didn't shoot it till last year. Came across the thread a few months back and realized I hadn't bought a complete dumpster fire of a pistol. I've put about 300 rounds of cheap steel case ammo through it and zero malfunctions. Just put the Wilson checkered front strap and pretty excited to put some more rounds through it.

 

[Castle Rock]

Yep. It's a thing. High-end makers such as Alchemy/Cabot do it for all of theirs.

As far as I can tell, it's something for true believers / enthusiasts ...or dilettantes. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

A bit like this ... which is not safe for work:

CLICK

 

[Dobermann]

Does this end as a Snuff film? Hooded men dancing! WTH? I don’t know if I feel violated or want to vote democrat now.

I am going to grab a whiskey before the weirdness creeps in.

The band is called TISM - they always performed in masks. The point of the link was the lyrics, not the visuals ...

 

[HighUintas]

The band is called TISM - they always performed in masks. The point of the link was the lyrics, not the visuals ...

I didn't even realize there was lyrics. I was too entranced by the odd video and it had me thinking it was actually an exercise video before things got out of hand haha

 

[Dobermann]

I didn't even realize there was lyrics. I was too entranced by the odd video and it had me thinking it was actually an exercise video before things got out of hand haha

Video-free link for the crayon eaters who need it to help focusing on the lyrics:

Now can we get back to discussing 1911s?

I have nothing particularly helpful to add, except that if you get a Tisas Raider, you can order Zebrawood grips from Wood Caliber that approximate the coloration of the original M45A1. Boom.

But, if you think about it, this is pretty bass-ackwards: sourcing wooden grips to put on a Turkish 1911 to approximate the look of the original G10 ...

 

[ztc92]

I’ll try to get us back on track. I recently stumbled onto this video while wasting time on YouTube one night. Thought it was really interesting to see how all the parts work together, especially how the grip safety and thumb safety block the trigger in different ways.

 

[43.6N]

I got my magwell, and new trigger fitted.
Case of ammo and the extended Wilson mags showed up today.
Next I need to track down a decent holster, and start practicing for some spring USPSA single stack div outings.

I can’t thank you guys enough for everyone who provided info in this thread.

 

[TreeDog]

The band is called TISM - they always performed in masks. The point of the link was the lyrics, not the visuals ...

My TISM likes the visuals of this video much better

 

[id_jon]

I got my magwell, and new trigger fitted.
Case of ammo and the extended Wilson mags showed up today.
Next I need to track down a decent holster, and start practicing for some spring USPSA single stack div outings.

I can’t thank you guys enough for everyone who provided info in this thread.

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Why wait til spring?! Make it 2 or 3 of us in SS instead of the usual 1 or 2
Though I'll probably be shooting Limited 10 in a couple months, getting my 9mm 1911 cut for a dot as we speak

 

[43.6N]

Why wait til spring?! Make it 2 or 3 of us in SS instead of the usual 1 or 2
Though I'll probably be shooting Limited 10 in a couple months, getting my 9mm 1911 cut for a dot as we speak

Hahaha.
That many eh?
Give me a chance to at least function check these new mags, and I’ll sign up.

…Dang forum full of enablers

 

[id_jon]

Hahaha.
That many eh?
Give me a chance to at least function check these new mags, and I’ll sign up.

…Dang forum full of enablers

I think Emmett this month is the last one I'll be able to make for a while though with rifle matches coming up

 

[Dobermann]

The search for oils continues ...

I sourced some G96 Liquid Gun Grease. I said earlier that I love G96 Gun Treatment and would possibly use it as a beard oil if it wasn't likely to kill me ... well, the Gun Grease label explicitly says right at the top of the label: "CAUTION: MAY IRRITATE EYES AND SKIN. Do not get in eyes. Do not get on skin or clothing." So perhaps not a great option for either shooting or carrying pistols.

So I sourced some CRC Lanocote, which is lanolin mixed with fish oil and likely some synthetics. I've used this in spray applications on tools and farm equipment with good results ... but the grease stinks and I don't think I'd want to either shoot it, or carry something treated with it. AIWB this sh!t and your nether region would smell like a combination of dead sheep and dead fish. Only one of those would be bad enough. Banished to the tool shed.

This had me re-thinking @Formidilosus's recommendation of avoiding synthetics and using olive oil. I also remembered that it was used to protect armour in medieval times - with good performance/outcomes - but can't now remember what the chemical reason is for this. Initial experiments are that it works but can smell a bit ... fruity. And, being oil, can be drippy if over-applied / doesn't last as well as grease.

So I'm now wondering about coconut oil (more solid, so more like grease), perhaps mixed with avocado oil (https://cocavo.co.nz/product/cocavo-pure-400g/). Will report back in a few months.

This is the kind of rabbit-hole that @fwafwow would go down ... I did the same thing last year with heat exchanging stoves. Such productive use of time off work!

 

[43.6N]

The search for oils continues ...

I sourced some G96 Liquid Gun Grease. I said earlier that I love G96 Gun Treatment and would possibly use it as a beard oil if it wasn't likely to kill me ... well, the Gun Grease label explicitly says right at the top of the label: "CAUTION: MAY IRRITATE EYES AND SKIN. Do not get in eyes. Do not get on skin or clothing." So perhaps not a great option for either shooting or carrying pistols.

So I sourced some CRC Lanocote, which is lanolin mixed with fish oil and likely some synthetics. I've used this in spray applications on tools and farm equipment with good results ... but the grease stinks and I don't think I'd want to either shoot it, or carry something treated with it. AIWB this sh!t and your nether region would smell like a combination of dead sheep and dead fish. Only one of those would be bad enough. Banished to the tool shed.

This had me re-thinking @Formidilosus's recommendation of avoiding synthetics and using olive oil. I also remembered that it was used to protect armour in medieval times - with good performance/outcomes - but can't now remember what the chemical reason is for this. Initial experiments are that it works but can smell a bit ... fruity. And, being oil, can be drippy if over-applied / doesn't last as well as grease.

So I'm now wondering about coconut oil (more solid, so more like grease), perhaps mixed with avocado oil (https://cocavo.co.nz/product/cocavo-pure-400g/). Will report back in a few months.

This is the kind of rabbit-hole that @fwafwow would go down ... I did the same thing last year with heat exchanging stoves. Such productive use of time off work!

Man, I too would love to know how that olive-coconut oil combo treats you.

I’ve been using white lithium grease for my carry gun this last year without complaints or hiccup. But I sure would prefer a more skin friendly, and not petroleum based option.

 

[nephewjephew]

Olive oil does work. As far as cooking oils go it’s on the lower end for smoke point, as is coconut oil. Grape seed and avocado have very high smoke points. Then there is rape seed oil. Which is an industrial lubricant, and the food “safe” version of that is what we call canola oil. Do with that what ya will.

 

[RockAndSage]

The search for oils continues ...

I sourced some G96 Liquid Gun Grease. I said earlier that I love G96 Gun Treatment and would possibly use it as a beard oil if it wasn't likely to kill me ... well, the Gun Grease label explicitly says right at the top of the label: "CAUTION: MAY IRRITATE EYES AND SKIN. Do not get in eyes. Do not get on skin or clothing." So perhaps not a great option for either shooting or carrying pistols.

So I sourced some CRC Lanocote, which is lanolin mixed with fish oil and likely some synthetics. I've used this in spray applications on tools and farm equipment with good results ... but the grease stinks and I don't think I'd want to either shoot it, or carry something treated with it. AIWB this sh!t and your nether region would smell like a combination of dead sheep and dead fish. Only one of those would be bad enough. Banished to the tool shed.

This had me re-thinking @Formidilosus's recommendation of olive oil. I also remembered that it was used to protect armour in medieval times - with good performance/outcomes - but can't now remember what the chemical reason is for this. Initial experiments are that it works but can smell a bit ... fruity. And, being oil, can be drippy if over-applied / doesn't last as well as grease.

So I'm now wondering about coconut oil (more solid, so more like grease), perhaps mixed with avocado oil (https://cocavo.co.nz/product/cocavo-pure-400g/). Will report back in a few months.

This is the kind of rabbit-hole that @fwafwow would go down ... I did the same thing last year with heat exchanging stoves. Such productive use of time off work!

For a 1911, you can cut to the chase and source either TW25b, or cherry balms. Those tend to get me about 2-5 times the shooting compared to oils before needing to reapply. Everything else works, yes, but that's not the question. A better question on any given gun lube, is how long will something work on a given gun, how well, and under what conditions.

Things like plant-derived oils tend to have really good high-temperature properties. But, depending on their refinement quality, they can often polymerize, and end up getting increasingly sticky over time. It's generally not an issue if you're shooting and re-applying regularly, but shoot a gun hot, stick it in storage (or a night stand) for six months, and some will actually be tacky. As in, slides going in slow-motion tacky. FireClean and Frog Lube were both a disaster with this issue. Plant-derived oils are also generally the worst in cold temperatures, alongside industrial greases, when used in guns. Stick a bottle of it in your freezer overnight to see what happens. Again, they're totally usable - it's just a question of limitations. Know the limitations, and you're fine.

I live in a place that can commonly get to 0F most winters, but over 100F in summers. CCW guns don't need to worry about cold as much, as almost all lubricants people use on guns are fine with that body temp. But OWB carry for duty or ranch type work in winter, that lube on those guns only gets a fraction of that body heat. Same with long guns. Different lubes freeze up at different rates, but there aren't many that are stone-cold reliable down below -20F. The only greases I know of that do well in extreme cold are TW25b, cherry balms, and Geissele's stuff, which is generally thinner than what I want in a grease. I prefer a good grease on guns because it stays put better - especially in high heat - and actually acts like a sealant to keep crap out of the bearing surfaces. There's just not many that are properly designed for guns.

If you really want to experiment and do a little redneck engineering, just take an automotive grease, and add motor oil and stir, adding until it's about the consistency of a lotion. That will get you about 80% of the performance of the greases I mentioned, and is right in the ballpark for the thickness that gives maximum reliability in guns.