100 vs 125 grain broadheads/field points

[PredatoryProwler]

I had used 125 grain broadheads for the previous season hunting mainly elk and deer, and I have been debating switching to 100 grain. Is there any noticeable difference in penetration or performance. Which do you guys prefer? Drawing ~60lbs at 28 inches. Same question for 3 vs 4 vane arrows.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

The specific heads you're looking at matter more than their weight.

 

[PredatoryProwler]

The specific heads you're looking at matter more than their weight.

What do you use/recommend?

 

[ResearchinStuff]

For 100 gr, rage trypan, deadmeat v1, or qad exodus

For 125 gr, I would use the exodus or deadmeat v2.

There are lots of fancier and more expensive heads. The ones listed have worked for me. 28.5", 70#

 

[Tnarb44]

There are many other things important things to consider when choosing broadhead weight like total arrow weight, desired arrow weight, foc, and the type game you are using them on. Other than that generally there is very little difference between 100 and 125 broadheads other than some 125s are built a little stronger.

 

[Tnarb44]

3 fletch vs 4 fletch really comes down to how much rear steer you need. I have experimented with both and didn’t find enough benefit in 4 fletch to switch. Best thing you can do is fletch some 4s and compare them in your bow. If what you have tunes well and flys true it might just be best to stick with what has been working.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

My 3 fletch aae max stealth arrows hit the same spot as my 4 fletch tac driver arrows of the same weight to beyond 60 yards.

 

[PredatoryProwler]

My 3 fletch aae max stealth arrows hit the same spot as my 4 fletch tac driver arrows of the same weight to beyond 60 yards.

Ok, the guy at the local bass pro was trying to convince me to buy some 100 grains points and 4 vane but from what it sounds like it really isn't much of a difference worth noting. Based on how well I shoot right now I probably wouldn't notice much of a difference anyways lol.

 

[Tnarb44]

Ok, the guy at the local bass pro was trying to convince me to buy some 100 grains points and 4 vane but from what it sounds like it really isn't much of a difference worth noting. Based on how well I shoot right now I probably wouldn't notice much of a difference anyways lol.

Correct, most likely wont notice a difference switching to 4 fletch if your bow is properly tuned now.

 

[Wheels]

You could shoot 100gr broadheads and put a 25gr collar on the arrows.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Thunderhead 100s with a 50 grain insert in my GT Hunter XT 300 spine arrow. Gives me around 430 grain total arrow weight. That’s a perfect weight for me.

I only shoot 3 vanes. I’ve seen zero reason for me to ever want a 4 vane setup.

 

[PredatoryProwler]

Thunderhead 100s with a 50 grain insert in my GT Hunter XT 300 spine arrow. Gives me around 430 grain total arrow weight. That’s a perfect weight for me.

How are the thunderheads? I debated getting those this season but decided against them and got some magnus stingers.

 

[180ls1]

Ok, the guy at the local bass pro was trying to convince me to buy some 100 grains points and 4 vane but from what it sounds like it really isn't much of a difference worth noting. Based on how well I shoot right now I probably wouldn't notice much of a difference anyways lol.

Don't listen to him

125 heads are tougher constructed (more material), 3 fletch also has less drag (think of a parachute) so if your bow shoots well leave it alone.

 

[PredatoryProwler]

Don't listen to him

That guy has more than a couple screws loose

 

[ResearchinStuff]

He's just trying to sell stuff.

 

[06 SB]

I never listen to Bass Pro workers since a guy tried to convince me that a Vortex Crossfire II scope was a better optic than the Zeiss and NF I went there to buy.

125s or 100s do not have a significant difference. The only reason I drop down is if you were trying to gain a bit more speed. Head brand is more of a concern. I like Muzzy MX4 (one killed the buck in my avatar), or Slick Trick Magnums for fixed blades. 3 fletch are fine as long as they are tall. The low profile fletching do not work well with fixed blades.

 

[fatlander]

Going from 125s to 100s will require you to retune your bow. There’s not much difference in 125s and 100s otherwise. 100s are slightly more available than 125s. Some 125s are slightly more robust than the 100 grain versions of the same head. 25 grains one way or the other isn’t going to have any appreciable difference in penetration. QAD Exodus and the smaller grim reaper mechs are hard to beat.

Here’s the honest truth about 4 fletch, they’re pushed by people who need to sell more vanes. Anytime you can sell 33% more units to your existing customer, you’re going to sing its praises.

3 high profile vanes (blazer, Q2i raptx, tac summit, aae hunter, etc) steer broadheads better than 4 longer low profile (aae max stealth, bohning heat, tac driver, silent knight, etc). Go test it out yourself, take a bow that’s not tuned and see which one keeps broadheads with field tips at further distances. Higher profile vanes have more leverage than low profile vanes, that’s why they work better.


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[Collin304]

I would stick with 125 up front as long as you’re not under-spined and having tuning issues. More forward weight changes your arrows lever giving the vanes more mechanical advantage making it easier for them to do their job. I would definitely recommend 3 fletch: less money, less drag, less weight on the back of your arrow.


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[Bump79]

I'll echo what others have said. At my amateur shooting ability I couldn't measure any benefit of a 4 fletch. 25 grains likely isn't going to make or break a setup. It's not going to noticeably speed you up or change tune much even.

Some 100 grain heads are plenty durable. Depends on the head. I like 100 grain heads because I shoot Micros and the components take a little more weight to get durable.

When building a hunting arrow focus on durability up front - disregard FOC discussions. By getting durability up to snuff you'll nearly automatically get 13-18% FOC.

Tune, overall durability broadhead design, and sharpness is all you really need to think about. I like to try to achieve that at the lowest weight I can for reduction in time in flight and a flatter trajectory. Sometimes that 440 grains and sometimes it's 505 grains. Depends on spine and bow/archer specs.

 

[N2TRKYS]

How are the thunderheads? I debated getting those this season but decided against them and got some magnus stingers.

I love them. I started using them when I started bowhunting back in ‘92. A couple of years ago I tried some Grim Reaper Micro Hades. I hated those things and quickly went back to Thunderhead 100s.